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Topic: D21 help

Posted By: D171958
Subject: D21 help
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2024 at 7:25pm

I was looking at a d21 and it’s a bareback with out a pto and I was wondering if you can put a pto shaft in without it costing a lot.

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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2024 at 8:28pm

At a minimum, you'd need a lift arm housing which would contain the PTO clutch itself. Also need the handle and linkage from the platform on down to the lift arm housing. Then, there is the matter of whether there are the needed parts up front from the bell housing thru the 4-speed transmission. If the 4-speed tranny has a shift lever on the right side, going up to the brake pedal area, I'd say everything is in there. No shift lever it isn't. Think of how many hundreds of D-21 pullers that used to have all that stuff and removed it and by now thrown it all away.

Posted By: D171958
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2024 at 7:17am

So it could run into a big problem.

Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2024 at 7:21am

If the hollow PTO drive shaft isn't already inside the bellhousing and its lower connecting shaft thru the 4-speed tranny, it would be a very big deal. I have no idea if these front parts were standard equipment or not, regardless if it had a PTO clutch on the rear or didn't. As I said, if there is a shift lever on the right side of the 4-speed and it goes up to the brake pedal area, those parts must be inside.

Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2024 at 8:13am

If it left west allis without pto, the gears and shaft are not there, there is a special sleeve in the parts book to press onto the trans input shaft for models without pto, to take up the space that one with the pto live shaft would take up. The tractor in question could have had it removed for pulling reasons, but guessing it's a factory bareback he's wanting to put pto in. Better off finding a different one with it already in it.

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Posted By: D171958
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2024 at 7:01am

Ok thanks for the help

Posted By: Acdiesel
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2024 at 11:12am

Not sure if your on Facebook, but here's a D21 that needs some TLC with a 3 point and PTO.

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https://www.facebook.com/share/pPv2trYTy7qZuxEt/%20" rel="nofollow - https://www.facebook.com/share/pPv2trYTy7qZuxEt/

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Posted By: D171958
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2024 at 7:11am

That actually isn’t a bad deal.

Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2024 at 8:02am

Have you looked to see if yours has the shift lever on the right side of the 4-speed tranny going up to the brake pedals???

Posted By: D171958
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2024 at 7:16am

No it didn’t have the shift lever

Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2024 at 7:18am

So, it is completely empty inside from the pressure plate thru the whole driveline.

Posted By: D171958
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2024 at 7:27am

Ok thanks for the help have a merry christmas

Posted By: d17brown
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2024 at 6:04pm

I have a couple D21s for sale with pTO

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phil

Posted By: d17brown
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2024 at 6:06pm

I have a couple d21s with pto for sale

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phil