Westendorf mounting brackets for Allis 185
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Topic: Westendorf mounting brackets for Allis 185
Posted By: dcm
Subject: Westendorf mounting brackets for Allis 185
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2024 at 6:21am
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I am searching for a used loader which fits an Allis 185. Westendorf TA-26 and WL-42 both would work (among others). Westendorf's web site names the 42 as best loader for a 185, so I've searched mainly for that model. There are quite a few used loaders available but haven't found one from a 185 or any Allis Chalmers tractor. The 185 needs the AC1 mount, and the most common available appear to be IH1 (from a 1066 or 1086). A new mount kit costs over 2k, so hoping to save that expense. Does anyone have experience converting a Westendorf mount to fit different tractor style? |
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Posted By: KJCHRIS
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2024 at 9:27pm
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I think they'll be hard to find. I own 1 of the 2 sets of WL40 &42 for AC180-200 tractor brackets I've ever seen. They're far more solid than the universal brackets that came w/ WL40 loader when got it. The side plates that bolt to tractor rails and the rear drop plates and square cross bar are very similar to if not identical to what is used on J D 3010 - 4020 series tractors, the front cross plate is different from if for J D. As it's winter my loader is on the AC200 so won't get pictures of brackets. ------------- AC 200, CAH, AC185D bareback, AC 180D bareback, D17 III, WF. D17 Blackbar grill, NF. D15 SFW. Case 1175 CAH, Bobcat 543B, |
Posted By: AndrewGubbels
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2024 at 8:18pm
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I have a set I sent you pm ------------- Andrew Gubbels Gubbels Restoration |
Posted By: MadCow
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2025 at 8:23pm
| Would you be able to send me pictures of your kit? I think I need to manufacture a kit myself. Westendorf wants $2400 for a new set |
Posted By: dcm
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2025 at 2:15am
| uploads/25332/TractorLoader-WestendorfWL42.jpg" rel="nofollow - uploads/25332/TractorLoader-WestendorfWL42.jpg Here's the seller's photos from the kit which I ended up buying. It was immediately mounted on the tractor, so I can't provide any other pictures of just the mount brackets. |
Posted By: dcm
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2025 at 2:23am
| File upload on this forum is not exactly user-friendly. Give me an email address and I'll send three photos. |
Posted By: dcm
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2025 at 2:25am
picture (maybe)  
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Posted By: MadCow
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2025 at 12:30pm
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Don't suppose you could get me two dimensions? Then I should be able to fabricoble a plate and use the brackets I have. The vertical from top of bracket to where the square cross bar mounts, and the full from to back of the plate. Also, what's the square block do on the sides?
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Posted By: dcm
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2025 at 2:08pm
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I can take the measurements but it will be a while, my next visit to the farm is planned for April. I think the square block is just a spacer to keep the mount from sliding left to right. I attached the best photo I could find. The bolt holes which are visible are not used. I suppose another possibility is some other kind of Westendorf attachment bolts on here, but I can't think of any example. btw I think this loader is on the heavy side for the tractor. My bottom yolk cracked last summer and getting it fixed was not cheap. It cracked in a spot where had been welded before, so that part is apparently underengineered. We welded an extra plate all along the replacement part, should hold another fifty years.
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Posted By: MadCow
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2025 at 2:12pm
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Thanks for the replies! Something is better than nothing. If you remember in April I'd sure appreciate it. The pictures themselves help a ton. I'll let an eye out for the yoke. I think mine has a weld already, it was a loader tractor with a different loader. |
Posted By: dcm
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2025 at 2:23pm
| The ends of single steel piece next to corners seem to be the weakest. You can see where mine was welded once in the rear, then broke again in front. We beefed up all along the U-shaped steel where it was alone. |
Posted By: dcm
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2025 at 2:28pm
broken twice in different places
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Posted By: dcm
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2025 at 2:29pm
replaced and beefed up. |
Posted By: d17brown
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2025 at 8:20pm
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I have one from a 170, would sell tractor also, 563 542 0673, Farley iowa ------------- phil |
Posted By: d17brown
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2025 at 8:26pm
 ------------- phil |
Posted By: im4racin
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2025 at 9:50pm
| I have a wfe(white) loader off a 185. Complete with valve. Home made brackets but looks pretty decent. It’s already off the tractor. |