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Need an assist with a 200

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Topic: Need an assist with a 200
Posted By: pdh
Subject: Need an assist with a 200
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2024 at 4:37pm
Bought a 200 this fall to use as an auger tractor.  Open station (now) with hydraulic PTO so works great for my use.  I am doing a little post harvest work before I put it away and  could use an assist on a couple of things.  First - the OEM block heater must be burnt out and while this tractor does have a working glow plug I would rarther be able to plug it in for easy starting.  Real tight quarters where it mounts.  Can I get the old block heater out and the new one in without taking the starter off?  Second, I'd like to rig a bypass for the clutch safety switch so I can start it from the ground.  Yes - I know -  I know - no sermons please.  Just looking for a lesson easiest way to bypass.  Am I correct that the clutch safety switch functions by ineterrupting ground?  Thanks.



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Posted By: DanWi
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2024 at 6:04pm
Without the sermon you can hook the wires together down by the switch on the clutch rod in front of your dash. Easy enough to reconnect for the rest of the year. Switch makes the circuit for your starter wire.


Posted By: KJCHRIS
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2024 at 9:35pm
 Loosen switch's stop on linkage rod and slide away from switch OR make jumper from 2 male spade terminals and 3" of insulated wire, unplug wires from switch & plug in the jumper. 
 Yes engine heater can come out w starter in place. Well if it has a Lucas starter not sure on Delco. Remember to drain at least 2 gallon from radiator. 


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Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2024 at 8:15am
200s Do not have a glow plug.  That is a manifold air heater.  It heats the air that the engine draws in.  Keep it activated for a count up to 75 or so (depends on tractor) and it will start the tractor.
Check both ends of the cord on your block heater - that might be the problem.  ACGO could get you a new heater if you need one.  I have never replaced one though.


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Posted By: jvin248
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2024 at 9:58am
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You might rewire that clutch safety switch to a second push button switch you hold down while starting. Just like a lawn mower handle safety bar, release and the starter stops.

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Posted By: pdh
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2024 at 10:02am
Yup.  This is what I elected to do.  Left the original intact for normal operation and then pigtailed in a second momentary switch located on the front of the brake platform.  Works great.  Thanks for all of the replies.


Posted By: Lars(wi)
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2024 at 10:09am
When you say ‘block heater’ are referring to a ‘frost plug heater’?

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Posted By: pdh
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2024 at 10:17am
I mean the OEM style heater that installs in the block behind the starter.



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