Asked to go with BIL to his farm again
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Topic: Asked to go with BIL to his farm again
Posted By: DMiller
Subject: Asked to go with BIL to his farm again
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2024 at 3:45am
BIL last month asked if I could accompany him to the old farm I used to mow and work on to keep some functional, been fourteen going on fifteen years since set foot on that place. Was not sure but explained to wife he needed the hand as his son was all too busy and she agreed to my going.
Entire area is nuts with people now. New neighbors with crappy homes being built, wells drilled and trash building up was so sad seeing that. At least someone is always close by that the druggy thefts have ceased. All that I had gotten cleared with the old Allis 180 is overgrown again. All the work we had done for close to twenty five years gone to rot, he explained he cannot get any help from son as works so hard and the reason we own our place, his wife’s pissy attitude, where she determined would help him was as functionless.
We had discussions on what he should get for land clearing and cleanup, how to house it and so on, he is as lost as was when I first ventured in on that place over thirty years ago. The third party partner died three years ago, so is just he and son that works six to seven days a week. He was thinking forty horse tractor, I explained he needed at least seventy, smaller row crop size, he was also considering a skid steer as a second choice where is a good second machine but not as general purpose. Cannot get a building built as costs are extreme now, so we discussed shipping containers for storage and expanded machine shed capabilities. At 65 he is not sure he can manage to get this all done if I do not help with his boy. I dare say he waited too long.
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Posted By: Hubert (Ga)engine7
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2024 at 5:07am
Sounds like he is caught between a rock and a hard place. How many acres? Without any help he may want to consider leasing it. I agree that he has waited too long with his boy, you have to get started with them at an early age.
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Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2024 at 6:29am
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In my opinion- he needs to just sell it - get what is going price and forget it, his son has no interest in it or he would do something with it- he,s 65--time is moving ,,
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Posted By: Scott B
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2024 at 8:24am
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We've a family place that was initially owned by 7 siblings (2 are now gone). BIL and I have kept it up for the past 35 years or so since the passing of our FIL, other 3 owners haven't been there in 10 years or so. While our kids have always loved it, they've lives of their own and now spread out. Seeing the same deal with people buying small parcels around us for their "dream property"...come in with a trailer, carports, storage containers and 3 years later its a trash sale on the courthouse steps. I've set it up in an LLC to make insuring and estate planning a bit easier. Told the oldest nephew to sell it off in parcels after we're gone and maybe keep 5 or 10 acres around the house. With your BIL at 65, and no plans to be living there, sadly think I'd be looking into selling.
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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2024 at 8:34am
YEP... sell it and move on... Kid has no interest, so forget it.
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Posted By: deckape
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2024 at 5:44pm
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I have inherated 45 acres with my brother . As a kid I spent every summer helping my grandfather farm and hay this acreage . He showed me every corner , spring , cave and Indian Shelter on his property which at the time was close to 300 acres . Over the years with each relatives death , acreage grew smaller as they sold . Uncle still has 160 ,cousin 40 and our 45 . Uncles kids live different lives and will not move back . They will sell . Cousin is undecided as to what he well do and still lives in area at old home place . I have put a metal building on an acre and enjoy spending several months there ,and lease the 20 acres that are tillable . Brother has not been on property in years .Wants me to leave it to his kid when I die , Kids has no idea where it is and will sell it before I'm cold . I have a love for the land and at 70 years old ,will keep walking , working it and think how proud my grandfather would be today with what I've done in maintaining it and how much I've tried to keep his message . " They don't make it anymore , dirt is life "
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Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2024 at 5:55pm
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Does not really want to sell, the Son does go there but as noted from others is a adult now with a life of his own and responsibilities. BIL still likes the place, tried to do the work 'On the Cheap', bought a used DR Field Mower, edges kept creeping inward as could not handle the bigger materials. Chainsaws and Weed Whackers with Blades next up with that walk behind, spent almost enough to have bought a real purpose built tractor and bush hog. He just could not understand why I could mow in two days on the 180 and did not need a third, he needs WEEKS for same area. The son my nephew is now considering a Skid Steer with a Bushhog Mower attachment. Did caution as to having something with limited expansion capabilities. Can get Post Driver or auger, can have many such attachments as with the brush cutter but is limited to that type work as in materials moving. As a loader the Reach UP is not near enough for realistic placing into a dump truck, as a fork lift is fine until the parcel sets too far back or once get it up to height is more like Overhead than in front. The two think in narrow values of Speed and Size to store in a Smallish shed or Structure as they do not wish to haul it.
At that point recommended a Shipping Container or maybe two, They have Taller sizes where a Decent sized farm tractor WILL fit inside, have Side Door units where Implements can be kept Inside and still far less time or finance than a Full Size Garage type shed. They are mulling. Farm is 160+ acres, rough terrain with some fields and creekbeds.
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Posted By: Scott B
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2024 at 8:14am
Another thought....my nephew works for Sunbelt rentals and several years ago suggested I rent a skid steer (tracked) w a bush hog attachment. If you rent in a Friday, it's only one day rental and due back on Monday am.
Rented the setup along with a tooth bucket. Two solid ~8 hour days and was able to really clean up things! Especially around those dreaded honey locust w thorns. By Sunday, I had no desire to climb back in and go more. Cost me $800 or $900, did the job, no ongoing maintenance or storage issues!
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Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2024 at 5:13pm
Unless the skid loader is High Flow hydraulics - it's not going to work . For clearing and piling things fine or carry but for tillage and power attachments a tractor is only good solution .
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Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2024 at 5:28pm
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from reading the posts..... I offer, he should think about buying out the son's 1/2 of the property. That way HE can do what he wants,when he wants. if I was 65,there's no way I could manage 160 acres (1/4 section ?? ) on my own. At 71, NO WAY...even IF I still had my 4 D-14s... My 'gut' ( and back and eyes and knees and... ) says it might be time to sell off a portion of the land, use those coins to HAVE his house built, buy reliable equipment and ENJOY what's left of the time he has.He'd probably have GREAT fun working 20 acres instead of fighting the loosing battle to maintain 160.
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Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2024 at 3:45am
Nick, my nephew and the son had the long talk with his dad, BIL is signing over the entire property to him so long as he does not sell it before the BIL passes.
Nick has the finances to do as he wishes and intends to begin with a rental machine. Not Sunbelt but a close second thru a Deere Dealer where the machine will be at their yard closer to the farm than his own home. Try it to see if will be useful enough, for other functions, for a later purchase. Knows full well needs a full time owned tractor with general mower first, then the Skid Steer. Also contacted me as to hauling in two perhaps three CONEX shipping Containers, already spoke to concrete finisher down there as to grade out and pouring a pad large enough for those.
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Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2024 at 6:05am
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happy they talked and made a decision ! Having 'partners', 'coowners' can be a real pain especially relatives.....
when you place the seacans, put them 10-12' apart. that way you can 'roof' the gap and have a shady spot to store more stuff.....
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3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)
Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water
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Posted By: scott
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2024 at 10:07am
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Skid steers are like tractors in that there are all sizes, HP ranges, and optional stuff. I agree with Coke in that you want the high flow hydraulics to run hydraulic motors. The machine I would buy would have minimum 65 to 80 HP. We use my neighbors skid steer on what seems like every project outside the house, recently, firewood, lifting the septic tank lid, post hole digging, rock moving, snow moving, deer blind moving... Handiest thing around!
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