Allis b Ross steering box
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Topic: Allis b Ross steering box
Posted By: Hardwater000
Subject: Allis b Ross steering box
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2024 at 6:11am
| Can someone please tell me if the pin that rides inside the worm gear is round or oblong? I have looked at various pictures and it appears to be round and somewhat coned down. I need to build mine up and like toget it shaped right the first try.if anyone has any measurements that would be great to...Tia |
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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2024 at 2:19pm
saw this on the internet several years ago.. I made a couple useing these numbers. ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: Hardwater000
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2024 at 2:31pm
| That helps a lot thank you. |
Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2024 at 10:26pm
| Do have part number |
Posted By: JoeM(GA)
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2024 at 6:07am
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Mike, I don’t think Allis ever sold just the pin, parts book only shows the lever the pin is in, Deere did sell the pin alone, Allis chose not to. ------------- Allis Express North Georgia 41 WC,48 UC Cane,7-G's, Ford 345C TLB |
Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2024 at 7:15am
| Yes sorry that’s what I meant. We have some nos shafts |
Posted By: Hardwater000
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2024 at 11:38am
| My pin does not appear to drive out. I used a punch but no outline of the pin on backside of shaft. Numerous post I have studied on says they drive out. And another question I have 20 ball bearings but looks like it could easily hold at least 1 more any info much appreciated |
Posted By: Hardwater000
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2024 at 12:27pm
| Nos shafts is that your personal collection or for sale? |
Posted By: JoeM(GA)
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2024 at 1:56pm
 If you just touch the back of the arm where the pin is with a flap disc, you’ll see the outline of the pin, it’s in there good! Parts book calls for 20 balls for B & IB, 24 for C ------------- Allis Express North Georgia 41 WC,48 UC Cane,7-G's, Ford 345C TLB |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2024 at 2:49pm
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no way the pin could be MADE on the end of the shaft. It has been pressed in... I have had to center punch and drill one out before that was TOO TIGHT..... also possible that someone instalaled a new pin and welded the back side, then ground it flush so it looks like one piece ? YES-- 20 balls as shown in the drawing.. you want some clearance for them to roll and carry oil / grease.. Very low speed application. ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: Hardwater000
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2024 at 3:43pm
| May of been welded haven't gave up yet. On the bearings I will recount again but it appears that I had plenty of room for 1 maybe 2 but they do need room for oil and grease like said above |
Posted By: Kiwi
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2024 at 4:06am
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Hi I knocked my pin out turn it 90 degrees and put it back in so it now runs on the unworn face. ------------- Tractors Allis EB,two C,diesel G |
Posted By: Hardwater000
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2024 at 5:40am
| I read on another topic while searching that someone did that, but mine is wore bad enough that it has to be reworked or try to buy a new one probably will rework considering the prices I have seen on new pins. |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2024 at 7:57am
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the first couple i did, i welded up the pin , in place, and ground it back to a cone shape with a hand grinder... At that time i didnt know the pins came out and you could buy new... AFter the first couple, i drill out the old and made new pin on the lathe out of a grade 8 bolt. ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: Hardwater000
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2024 at 9:20am
| That is a good idea with the bolt. I maybe able to turn it down locking it into a drill press bc I don't have a lathe. Much easier I think than welding what little of the pin is left. I believe maybe it has been welded from backside and ground down I ran a flap disk over it and it's the only thing I can think of why I can't see the outline of the pin. |
Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2024 at 9:57am
| Do you know part number of shaft |
Posted By: JoeM(GA)
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2024 at 10:59am
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70211001 LEVERSHAFT (TR. B-101 & UP) (B & IB) ------------- Allis Express North Georgia 41 WC,48 UC Cane,7-G's, Ford 345C TLB |
Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2024 at 12:20pm
| Thanks Joe. I’ll check that number |