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Topic: D14 battery
Posted By: AC720Man
Subject: D14 battery
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2024 at 10:07pm
What size 6V battery are you guys running in your D14? Just picked up a D14 and don’t have an owners manual yet. I have a 800 CA, 650 CCA in my WD assuming that will work? Or did the later models get switched to 12V?
Thanks

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD



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Posted By: Gary
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2024 at 4:11am

My Dad was an Allis Dealer back then when the D-14's came out in 1957.

During the cold winter months you were lucky to get 3 revolutions of the Engine before it just stopped. Release the key, then try again and hope for another 3

It is very important to have extra heavy duty cables, both + and - .

Something as heavy as Welder Cable is best. Definitely not cables meant for a 12 volt system.

The higher the CCA the better in cold weather, won't do any harm.

Gary



Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2024 at 4:42am
I have a couple 6 volt tractors that had 8 volt batteries in them when I bought them.  They start a lot better than 6 volt.

I know there are going to be comments about keeping terminals clean and equipping them with big battery cables, but like Gary said, you're lucky to get three revolutions out of 6 volts, especially after the battery is a couple years old.

After having tractors with 8 volt batteries, I will probably never buy another 6 volt battery.


Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2024 at 6:03am
I've had 4 D-14s ,3 early 6 v and one later 12v
All the sixes had a metal band to cover the brushes and you can't toss a 12 into a 6  !
My ,snif,sniif, ONLY D-14 I have now has a brand new 6 volt starter though I run it at 12 volts.
Had I been real smart I'd have kept the one 12v D-14.
To proper convert you need a 12v starter AND a new ring gear. You may want to consider that option when you replace the clutch........

If you stay with 6 volt, use battery cables made from welding cable. Big, fat, thick,  and check acid level OFTEN. Also be sure battery is FULLY charged.
Generators only put a few electrons back into battery,so it days a day of running  while alternators can quickly replace the electrons.


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3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)

Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water


Posted By: Tim NH
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2024 at 6:13am
Good to hear you found a D 14 Robbie. You'll have to post a picture of it. They are a nice size tractor, and easy to get on and off.   Tim


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1950 WD 1959 D14 1955 WD45 1976 7000 B 207


Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2024 at 6:43am
AND  a lot easier when you leave the Freeman loader frame on them  !


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3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)

Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water


Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2024 at 6:46am
Due to the battery tray & factory hold down you are limited to a Group 1. A group 2 might fit under the hood, but will not set in the battery tray. I also like to use an 8-1 "tractor" battery in anything with a 6 volt system. A careful re-adjustment of the voltage regulator is required to properly charge the battery without blowing light bulbs, I've used Non-polarity LED bulbs to overcome this problem.

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If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere.
Real pullers don't have speed limits.
If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2024 at 7:41am
I use 1/0 welding cable and crimp connectors so that’s the first thing that will get done. I’m thinking it’s a 12V system, just need to pull the info off the tag off the generator and call Steve. It’s a 1959 3 bar grill D14 to match my D17. Has the rear running lights which should be 12V. Just getting started with the project so I need to do some research. Changes were made at serial number 19001 so hopefully that was a 12V upgrade. This is a original owner tractor!! Has been sitting in a open front barn it’s entire life with little use. Sheet metal is so nice, original factory brush guard so the front end and grill are perfect. No dents other than 2 small ones on the rear fender down below the lip where he may have lifted something and it hit. Very easy repair. Clutch and brake pedals have most of their grip still there, no side to side slop. Draw bar has very little wear. Tach block off cover so unknown hours unfortunately. But it’s obvious it’s low hours. This will be an easy restoration. Wiring is also in great shape with the colors still visible and no cracks. Serial number starts with 21, can’t remember the rest at the moment. Power washed it yesterday. Uncle passed years ago and the family decided to sell it. Lucky me!!!!!!

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: Alvin M
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2024 at 8:13am
12V started at s# 19001


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2024 at 8:54am
Thank you sir! I just verified by taking some steel wool and lightly removing the black paint from the tag on the generator. Breathing a breath of fresh air. When I took the hoods off to clean it yesterday I noticed it had an old 12V battery in it and I about to crap because dad’s 57’ was 6 volt. Hard to find info of serial number changes and what they were. She purrs like a kitten and never took the hoods off while I test drive it. I mean you guys won’t believe how nice it is. Terribly faded paint but otherwise a cherry.

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: Alvin M
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2024 at 10:32am
D17 was always 12v from new



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