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Topic: Sealing rims
Posted By: SlatWD45
Subject: Sealing rims
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2024 at 3:19pm
Has anyone put flex seal or spray on bed liner on the inside of a rim to seal it from moisture and the ballast?
I just purchased some new rims and want to protect them the best I can.
Sorry if this is in the wrong forum.



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Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2024 at 6:08pm
If you never put anything other than air in your tires, The rims will outlast you and your grandchildren's grandchildren.
  Put anything else in your tires and it won't be IF, your rims rust, but WHEN. 


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Posted By: KJCHRIS
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2024 at 6:53pm
There's a product called "coal tar epoxy" available from several commercial paint suppliers. It's used on barges, boats & ships, railroad equipment, in the fertilizer industries and by some DOT's to control rust on snow removal equipment. 
 It comes in 2 parts that mix together to apply. Quart size cans of this mixed and brushed on to the inside of your rims should be rust free for a longtime. Dries to a grayish black color.
 It requires a bare, clean & rust-free metal surface to be successfully applied. To remove, it takes a sand blaster or use of many grinder discs. Most paints will not stick to it. 
 BUT calcium chloride and sodium chloride (salt water) will not soak into it for a longtime. Use of a respirator or at least a face mask is recommended when using. 


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Posted By: HudCo
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2024 at 11:08pm
rims will still  60years with calcuim if you take care of the valve stems and check and fill with the stems on top


Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2024 at 4:04am
Originally posted by HudCo HudCo wrote:

rims will still  60years with calcuim if you take care of the valve stems and check and fill with the stems on top


If is the key word,I've seen hundreds probably several thousand that Calcium rusted them out.Have also seen where the tube started leaking at other than the valve stem and no way to no until the rust shows up.


Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2024 at 5:44am
I agree that there are pros and cons to using calcium chloride as ballast. 

Personally, I would go to beet juice (Rimgaurd) or windshield washer fluid. Neither are as heavy as CaCl, but both are a lot less corrosive.


Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2024 at 6:18am
IF possible, forget about calcium !
 As others have said beet juice,ww fluid. 
Other possibility is wheel weights. May take 2-3 months to find them ($$$ to ship after all they are HEAVY ).
Maybe cast ones using concrete ?

Problem 'painting' the inside of the rim is it'll get scratched when mounting the tire and ANY knick,slice, gouge no matter how small IS where the salt water WILL find and ,ugh, the rim rots..very slowly at first,but, sigh, it's begun......


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Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2024 at 6:24am
Originally posted by jaybmiller jaybmiller wrote:

IF possible, forget about calcium !
 As others have said beet juice,ww fluid. 
Other possibility is wheel weights. May take 2-3 months to find them ($$$ to ship after all they are HEAVY ).
Maybe cast ones using concrete ?

Problem 'painting' the inside of the rim is it'll get scratched when mounting the tire and ANY knick,slice, gouge no matter how small IS where the salt water WILL find and ,ugh, the rim rots..very slowly at first,but, sigh, it's begun......

Plus only have to buy weights one time and most shops charge a lot extra to deal with fluid


Posted By: Leon B MO
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2024 at 6:16pm
Also be careful how much paint or other substance you apply to the rim. I put two new rear tires on an 8050, the rims were a little rusty so I painted them with a rattle can. It wasn't long after that the tire spun on the rim and cut the stem of the tube. We roughed up the bead and the outer part of the rim and it's been okay ever since.
Leon B Mo

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