Planting Tractors
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Topic: Planting Tractors
Posted By: Tbone95
Subject: Planting Tractors
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2024 at 7:11am
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Wondering if anyone has experience planting (12 row 30 inch) with an articulated tractor? I don’t have a lot of seat time in an articulated tractor, maybe 50-70 hours. It seems planting with one would be….weird. It wouldn’t be the primary choice, but as I continue the hunt and thinking about a second bigger tractor as backup, just curious about experience with a planter. Can find some seemingly good deals on articulated compared to MFWD. |
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Posted By: Allis dave
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2024 at 7:25am
| I've Planted a lot with one and no issues and it's not weird. The first time you drive one it takes a bit to get the hang of steering, but once you're used to it, it's no different planting or doing field work with one. |
Posted By: Lon(MN)
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2024 at 7:51am
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One year Larry Karg planted a tractor and during the Orange Spectacular show He dug it up. It was harvest time. It was still green but never sprouted. ------------- http://lonsallischalmers.com |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2024 at 8:10am
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Lon(MN) wrote:Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2024 at 8:17am
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Yeah I remember the first time I drove one, pulling field cultivator and rolling harrow. Came to my first turn which was as you were going over a hill and coming into a rather sharp angle field edge. Made that first sharp turn felt like I was going to fly out the side window, a very odd sensation. But yeah, got used to it. A couple of my specific concerns was, probably won’t have auto steer, so visibility of and staying on the mark. Then the turning. Thanks. |
Posted By: 8070nc
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2024 at 9:19am
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There will be more little squiggles in the rows because of the distance from the center pivot to the drawbar but it would be a lot better than not planting at all ------------- 1984 80780 1957 D14 DES 300 with 25000 engine 616 tractor |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2024 at 9:47am
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Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2024 at 10:59am
| In my area, a lot of guys pull planters with small articulated tractors and really like it. No lightbulb turns, plenty of traction/flotation. That said, they do not work well with a 3pt mounted planter, due to the twisting motion of the tractor being greatly magnified by the width of the tool bar. My former boss pulls a 24 row 40" planter with a Versatile 340 and said he'd never plant with a fixed frame again. |
Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2024 at 11:07am
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Back in the 80's some of the big cotton farmers out here had a lot Case 4x4's because of ability to have front only steering, as well as the crab steering and full 4 wheel steering. All hooked to the biggest planters of the day.
Until this time it was very rear to see any but green or red on those bigger farms. With the great amount tractors, they used they might give lesser brand a chance. But if it did not do something better than the rest they did not stay long. Also they were very much into steel tracks for all tillage. Of which they did a lot.
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Posted By: jiminnd
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2024 at 3:02pm
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More and more here, but also a lot of 24 row planters. I think it does make a difference on some models as the pivot point maybe different distance from the end of the drawbar.. ------------- 1945 C, 1949 WF and WD, 1981 185, 1982 8030, unknown D14(nonrunner) |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2024 at 3:47pm
| My current planter is two point drawn. Would like to stick with it. |
Posted By: DanWi
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2024 at 8:38pm
| Case IH had a row crop version for the small frame articulates. Front turned before it bent in the middle. 9130, 9230,9330 |
Posted By: bigal121892
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2024 at 7:04am
Most of those have been locked solid, as it was an idea that didn't work.
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Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2024 at 7:39am
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It's on my project list, but I want to get my 7580 all rigged up to pull my 12 row 385 deutz planter Darrel |
Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2024 at 12:33pm
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Neighbor plants with an articulated CIH no wiggly rows. I’d like something other than the 8050 to plant with thought of using my 8760 to plant with and get another 89x0 to take the 8760’s spot in the tillage line up. In the end cheaper than a 200 hp mfwd. We do 97% of the tillage with articulated tractors and it would be hard to go back to mfwd. ------------- 8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760 |
Posted By: Dakota Dave
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2024 at 2:54am
| we’ve used nothing but an articulating tractor on the grain drill for years . More flotation and it doesn’t spin down when you hit the soft spots in the field. |
Posted By: Lars(wi)
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2024 at 11:22am
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Largest corn planter I ever used was JD 7000 6 row narrow w/liquid fertilizer White 2-105 was the tractor. Planted for a neighbor’s brother in law who was dying from cancer at the time. Places I worked at as the hired hand, both used JD 7000 4 row wide w/dry fertilizer, 1 place used a Farmall 656 Gas, 1 place used a JI Case 830D Comfort King. Always worked with livestock, the wide row seemed to work better for harvesting cattle feed, and harvesting the stalks for bedding, straddling the rows with the manure spreader, and cultivating. Also saved the effort of changing the axle settings on the tractors between corn operations, and haying operations. It seemed when the neighbors discontinued livestock, within a year or so, they transitioned to narrow row corn operation. ------------- I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science. |