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Topic: 442 baler parts
Posted By: iowaman
Subject: 442 baler parts
Date Posted: 15 Jun 2024 at 8:10am
Looking for 442 baler parts. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Posted By: RP Farms
Date Posted: 15 Jun 2024 at 3:44pm
Is there anything you are specifically looking for? 


Posted By: DanielW
Date Posted: 15 Jun 2024 at 10:19pm
Let us know what parts. Knotters were the same Rasspe knotter used in NH's of that era. Because the 442 was made in England during their first trial of the metric system a lot of the bearing are standard metric bearings yoy can get anywhere (just did all the pickup bearing on mine a couple of years ago). PTO shaft is a standard size with standard yokes & cross kits. Not a lot else you couldn't make/fab yourself if you had to. Great balers for their time.


Posted By: iowaman
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2024 at 10:05am
I'm looking for the plunger bearings.

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Posted By: DanielW
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2024 at 10:43am
I did all my plunger bearings a few years ago. The original ones are no longer available, and Allis used two different sizes. 3" diameter for the four outside bearings, 2" diameter for the two lower and one inside bearings. You can use the standard 2-1/2" NH/Deere ones to replace the four outside ones, as it's the same thread size and there's enough slot in the mount to use the smaller diameter. For the other three, you have to get a little more creative, but it's still doable. Someone on another forum asked about the plunger bearings while I was doing mine, so I took a video of how I was doing it and what parts I used. I posted it on YouTube to be able to send them a link. Looks like it's still there. I'm no great narrator, but it should help you out. Here's a link to it: https://youtu.be/4uKCgKVHRJI?si=aOzE3_udTLwuPA4i" rel="nofollow - https://youtu.be/4uKCgKVHRJI?si=aOzE3_udTLwuPA4i


Posted By: DanielW
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2024 at 9:50am
Just found the old invoice for the parts I ordered, thought I'd post the part numbers here in case it helps you out with the plunger bearings:

For the four outside ones, I replaced the 3" Allis ones with the 2-1/2" ones that NH uses for many of their square baler models. I used aftermarket ones made by AI that you should be able to get through any dealer. AI Part Number A-688282 (original NH part # is just 688282).

For the two lower and one inside roller, I replaced the 2" Allis ones with a 1 7/8" yoke roller with a 1/2" low-profile shoulder bolt inside. I went with the 1 7/8" rather than 2", because 1 7/8" yoke rollers have a 1/2" bore (which works nicely with the 442 plunger mount holes) whereas 2" yoke rollers have a 5/8" bore. Yoke rollers were McGill #'CCYR 1 7/8 S', which is interchangeable with Smith # 'YR-1-7/8-XC' (a few other companies make yoke rollers that will interchange as well). The ultra-low head shoulder bolts I got to work with the yoke rollers were McMaster Carr # 90969A430.

The plunger crank arm bushings were 1-11/16" O.D. x 1-1/4" I.D. X 2" Long 660  Bronze Bushings. I ordered from a place called 'bronzebushings.com', their part number CB-2027-16. Had to cut them down to 1-3/4" length and do a fair bit of polishing of the bore, as they were a really snug fit on the 1-1/4" plunger shaft.

The reel cam bearings are just 6202 bearings which you can get anywhere. I think I ordered a 10 pack of cheapy ones off Amazon, which did the job just fine. Just make sure you get sealed (not shielded or open-race).


Posted By: iowaman
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2024 at 5:20am
Thank you so much for all of this information. It has been a great help.

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