D14 prices
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Topic: D14 prices
Posted By: AC720Man
Subject: D14 prices
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2024 at 9:24pm
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What’s the D14’s going for that are in nice shape? Looking into one with an older restoration, only flaw is the occasional jumping out of 3rd going down hill. Really appreciate the owner being honest with me when I asked. I’m not against tearing it down to replace damaged parts but I need to obviously take that into consideration. Anyone done the detent change? Alex(A&W)has a really good video on the procedure. Haven’t seen the tractor in person so I’m not positive if it’s a candidate. ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |
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Posted By: Fred in Pa
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2024 at 7:23am
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Detent change only works if shift collar and drive lugs on gear are not too far gone .If you hold it in gear and go down hill will it stay in gear or kick shifter . No pictures ??? .You know we need more information LOL
------------- He who dies with the most toys is, nonetheless ,still dead. If all else fails ,Read all that is PRINTED. |
Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2024 at 10:44am
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The tractor is 6 hours away from me and have not seen it in person. I’m uncertain if that procedure would work or not. Let’s say worse case I have to split it, parts are around $900 worse case scenario. What would it be valued at with that needing to be done? ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |
Posted By: rasman57
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2024 at 2:02pm
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Lots of variable involved in a general price range. I have 3 good D-14's and one parts tractor. Two are loader tractors, one a narrow front mowing tractor and all have power steering which is a requirement for me. I have seen usable D-14's sell for $1500-$4500. I recently bought a nice running 59 with great wheels, rubber and power steering but a cobbled up 3rd gear transmission issue and old one way trip loader for $2500. Price a set of new tires in that original 26 inch size with wheels, as well as a working complete power steering system and you probably would see why. Tires with spin out wheels, power steering, drawbar, snap couplers, working traction booster, etc all factor in to value. Do gauges work, 6-12 volt conversion (early), wide front adjustable vs narrow front. Sheet metal condition, side panels intact, etc also affect value to some folks. The 3rd gear issue is very common and is also instructive as to prior use by previous owner(s) since it is somewhat self inflicted. My NF mowing tractor came with 3rd gear pop out issues, but only under load downhill so I have lived with it for a decade with no issues since it is job specific for the most part. Bottom line for the buyer is what you are looking for and what you will use it for. Power steering on a non loader tractor is not a requirement for many users. A decent restoration, not just rattle can paint and new gauges, would cost 3-4 times the average cost of of one of these 3 year tractors. Parts are somewhat available but not always cheap and certainly not like the WD's. They are handy smaller tractors compared to the D-15 and D17 and priced lower accordingly in my area due to their limited use. Good luck with your quest.
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Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2024 at 2:26pm
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Probably doesn't mean much but I bought a D15 that I was familiar with last year non original wheels,3pt that was in need of a little work,PS,very good sheet metal,WF, stays in all gears,sitting covered for 10+ years,$1300.Spent about $300 on it,changed it to Snap Coupler hitch,runs and operates good,getting ready to mow hay with it. |
Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2024 at 8:58pm
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I have 3 tractors that I have had to fix the gear jumping issues on. Not doing another one. It doesn't matter how much of a bargain that D14 is, I would not bother with it. For a little bit more money you can find one that does not have any transmission problems and save yourself a lot of time and aggravation. Yes, there are still D14s out there without tranny problems. Two out of my 3 have never had problems. ------------- '49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080 |
Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2024 at 10:40pm
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New front tires and really good shape Firestones on the rear. It was sandblasted and painted in 2002. Shed kept. Present owner purchased knowing of the 3rd gear issue many years ago. He used it for a rake and wagon tractor and worked around the issue all this time so I’m guessing it’s not a constant gear popper. Sheet metal and the rest of it is really nice. Factory 6v. It’s a specific model that I’m looking for and they don’t come up for sale very often. Present price is $3,500. Rims are all good also. Won’t budge on the price ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2024 at 11:01pm
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the value of Anything is dependant on WHO wants it and WHAT is it worth to YOU... I have paid MORE than the going rate for something before, if i REALLY wanted that specific piece.
and this tractor does not sound like it really needs any work... maybe just use it AS IS . ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 15 Jun 2024 at 10:20pm
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Your exactly right Steve, I will regret it if I don’t pull the trigger and buy it. ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2024 at 6:01am
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A quick confirm for 6 or 12 , is to look at the starter. IF it has a 'band' around the brush end, it's a 6 volt starter. I had 4 D-14s, the 3 I sold had good '3rd gear' trannies.... I never use 3rd, so not an issue for me, use 1 to till, 4 to get there.,well used to... sigh...... Just remember A-C isn't making D-14s anyomore so get as MANY as you can, NOW !!!!! ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2024 at 8:35am
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3500 is very high for a gear jumper. What is specific about it that makes you want it? ------------- '49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080 |
Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 17 Jun 2024 at 5:45pm
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I will gladly spill the beans if the owner and I come to a compromise. It’s not a huge deal, but it is to me. I’m only interested because of one thing and I will let you know if or I don’t get it. Minor to most but it’s important to me. Really, the 3rd gear issue isn’t a deal breaker just asking to meet me in the middle. ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |
Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2024 at 9:24am
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Well it looks like it’s gonna work out. Hope to pick it up next week as long as I’m happy with it once I arrive. It’s a 1960 black bar grill D14. I never see them for sell locally. Will become a little brother to my black bar grill D17. Only 501 were built per Norms book. ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |
Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2024 at 9:57am
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Good luck with your new purchase Rob! Hope it's what yer' lookin' for.....  Hey, you only go around one time. Go for it!Steve@B&B ------------- 39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife |
Posted By: RedHeeler79
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2024 at 12:07pm
| Hey, that’s awesome! I really like the bar grill 14’s and 17’s too. Hope to own one someday. I agree with Steve… you only live once, if you want it, buy it! |
Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2024 at 3:36pm
I guess mine is one of those 501. My 1960 black bar grille D14. Serial number 22999.  ------------- '49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080 |
AC720Man wrote:Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2024 at 4:22pm
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First off that’s a nice original D14. Actually it’s 510 narrow front tractors, 1,690 roll shift front axle D14’s. I failed to mention it’s a narrow front just like my D17. I typed 501 by mistake. ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |
Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2024 at 7:29pm
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Are they the ones with the three metal strips across the front of the grill? |
Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2024 at 7:57pm
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Gary that is correct. Not sure why I like the grill so much I guess because it’s different than any other one that AC built. The serial number confirms its period correct. ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |
Posted By: DMac
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2024 at 8:21pm
| a narrow front bar grill d14 would be hard to resist. Hope it works out for you. That definitely is a cool find |
Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2024 at 8:31pm
I have a D14 parts tractor with a grill like that,has on old loader and a butchered WF on it,got it from Bud Yingling years ago.Don't know the serial number
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Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2024 at 6:39am
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I once had a D14 that was a gear jumper in 3rd only going downhill. Any other time it would stay in, even then if I held the gearshift on downhill times it wouldn't jump out. It had Char-Lyn PS on it and was so sensitive that it was dangerous at road speed. I really liked the lower and narrower hood and lower fenders compared to the D15II that I got to replace the D14. Had the D14 had factory PS I might not have been inclined to get rid of it. ------------- If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere. If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY |
Posted By: mruhlig77
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2024 at 4:06pm
| Nice bit of information....sounds like we need to start a registry....have one single front and one wide corn picker rear...Mark |
Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2024 at 5:20pm
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Oh your really getting into the good stuff. 510 NF, 1,690 Roll shift front axle in 1960, only 14 SFW in 1959, none in 1960. 40 SFW in 1958. Those single wheels were very rare. How fun is this! ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |
Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2024 at 5:31pm
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I’m really excited about this venture. Think about this, 510 total production NF D14’s in 1960. 64 years ago, how many are working tractors now? This is an investment for my kids, my wife. At least that’s my reasoning for buying this one lol. Plus I get to have fun enjoying it. I’m just trying to justify it for my wife lol. ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |