All Crop 60A
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Topic: All Crop 60A
Posted By: 55allis
Subject: All Crop 60A
Date Posted: 12 Jun 2024 at 11:27pm
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Well I got one on an auction today and took my 45D to pull it to its new home. It has a new reel and a new pick up chain/belt but the engine is stuck (it won’t crank over) and it has really old gas in the gas tank. Any advice would be appreciated!!! I’d like to get everything working to “play” with it if it’s possible… So here comes another project!!!  Edited: I changed the title to 60A ------------- 1955 AC WD45 diesel with D262 repower, 1949 AC WD45 |
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Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 12 Jun 2024 at 11:30pm
 ------------- 1955 AC WD45 diesel with D262 repower, 1949 AC WD45 |
Posted By: Allis dave
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2024 at 6:18am
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That's an interesting combine. It has a pickup head with a reel. I see it has duals on it too. That's a nice addition.
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Posted By: Lon(MN)
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2024 at 6:29am
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I have the PTO shaft and shield if you decide to remove the engine. ------------- http://lonsallischalmers.com |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2024 at 9:26am
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Is the pto shaft the same as a roto baler? I have 4 parts roto balers with the ptos… It also has a sickle bar under it.. I’m slightly confused about what kind of head it is, it has a tag but I didn’t get a picture. Got it from the Royal Bierbaum auction yesterday so there might be more pictures on there. https://www.equipmentfacts.com/listings/farm-equipment/auction-results/232812773/1951-allis-chalmers-60" rel="nofollow - https://www.equipmentfacts.com/listings/farm-equipment/auction-results/232812773/1951-allis-chalmers-60 ------------- 1955 AC WD45 diesel with D262 repower, 1949 AC WD45 |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2024 at 3:34pm
If not a perfect swap, its mighty close!  ------------- Source: Babylon Bee. Sponsored by BRAWNDO, its got what you need! |
55allis wrote:Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2024 at 4:08pm
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Well than it would a cheep swap if I can’t convince the engine to come loose! I sure would like to get it running if it’s possible though. ------------- 1955 AC WD45 diesel with D262 repower, 1949 AC WD45 |
Posted By: Darwin W. Kurtz
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2024 at 4:42pm
| nice machine, unusual set up, hardly ever see one with the engine.....wouldn't that be the same engine as some of the popular tractors of that time, seems some of those have been swapped in the past |
Posted By: Lars(wi)
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2024 at 5:05pm
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Same engine as a ‘B’ or possible ‘C’? ------------- I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science. |
Posted By: Alberta Phil
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2024 at 6:27pm
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Do you have the manual for that unit? And what is the serial number? |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2024 at 6:58pm
I only have a online parts catalog. I don’t even know where the serial number is on the machine…  I know it’s missing at least a 4 belts so I’m going to need to cross them. ------------- 1955 AC WD45 diesel with D262 repower, 1949 AC WD45 |
Posted By: Alberta Phil
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2024 at 8:09pm
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I have an original AC manual that covers operating instructions, special attachments, and repair parts book. Says it covers serial 93799 and up. I've had it for years and I'm never going to use it so if you send me a private message through the Forum with your mailing address, I'd be happy to send it to you. It's in good shape and complete for it's age.
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Posted By: Don Jr NY
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2024 at 5:05am
| The serial number is stamped into the left hand side of the machine right under the threshing cylinder shaft. Left/Right is always as you are standing behind the machine looking forward. Hope this helps. Don Jr. |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2024 at 11:06am
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The serial number is I think A54731. ------------- 1955 AC WD45 diesel with D262 repower, 1949 AC WD45 |
Posted By: Alberta Phil
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2024 at 2:02pm
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This one is for 93799 and up, but it would probably have all the info you would need. |
Posted By: Darwin W. Kurtz
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2024 at 3:31pm
| That would be a 60 A series machine, since serial number starts with A, I guess the A's were somewhat updated, don't reall know the difference in the actual machines, but they are different and I don't think there were nearly many 60A's built |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2024 at 3:40pm
Here’s what I found online… ------------- 1955 AC WD45 diesel with D262 repower, 1949 AC WD45 |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 15 Jun 2024 at 4:51pm
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Well the engine is shot… I pulled the head and found 1 broken sleeve and 4 out of 4 broke up pistons…   ------------- 1955 AC WD45 diesel with D262 repower, 1949 AC WD45 |
Posted By: Lars(wi)
Date Posted: 15 Jun 2024 at 5:10pm
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Nah, couple cans of WD40, charge up the battery, and your good to go!! ------------- I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science. |
Posted By: wjohn
Date Posted: 15 Jun 2024 at 9:48pm
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At least it's not some oddball manufacturer's engine. You should still be able to get all the parts you need since it's the B/C engine in power unit form. ------------- 1939 B, 1940 B, 1941 WC, 1951 WD, 1952 CA, 1956 WD-45 |
Posted By: Alberta Phil
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2024 at 9:48am
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New sleeve and piston set and a couple of gaskets and you're well on your way! |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2024 at 3:44pm
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Well I think I’m going to put the pto on it for now and than eventually get the engine to run (overhaul and clean it up). Does anyone know of a stock of parts for the 60A? It needs 3 pulleys, elevator door (rusted out), and a elevator chain. That’s what I seen so there’s probably more things that I haven’t notice…. ------------- 1955 AC WD45 diesel with D262 repower, 1949 AC WD45 |
Posted By: dr p
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2024 at 7:56pm
| Tom yaz will have it all |
Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2024 at 10:39pm
| Which pulleys do you need. We also have a bunch of pulleys |
Posted By: Lon(MN)
Date Posted: 17 Jun 2024 at 5:33am
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I have some parts for sale. ------------- http://lonsallischalmers.com |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 17 Jun 2024 at 11:27pm
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Well I have good news today, I was cleaning the walkers out and found the 2 pulleys and the rest of a slip clutch all in the coon crap so praise the Lord!!! Now the one slip clutch with 3 spring is missing 2 out of 3 springs and the single spring one is missing it’s spring. So now I need to repair and replace parts of the elevator chains (salvage what I can) and figure out belt sizes. Also I think the draper needs to be tightened because it won’t turn unless I hold it tight. I also tried to get the engine clutch to move but knew instantly that it’s going to have to be replaced because the springs are falling out so I’m really hoping that it’s the same clutch as the tractor B…   ------------- 1955 AC WD45 diesel with D262 repower, 1949 AC WD45 |
Posted By: Allis dave
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2024 at 5:39am
| I"m interested in the header. That's an interesting setup. Good luck getting it running |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2024 at 9:35am
I found another one down in a neighbors creek that possibly could have some parts salvageable… It’s upside down and beat up pretty bad I’d say….  ------------- 1955 AC WD45 diesel with D262 repower, 1949 AC WD45 |
Posted By: plummerscarin
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2024 at 11:43am
Restore it man!! 
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Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2024 at 3:15pm
I think it’s a tad gone to far… ------------- 1955 AC WD45 diesel with D262 repower, 1949 AC WD45 |
Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2024 at 11:07am
That looks like the original 1936/37 model combine, called the All-Crop Harvester (no model number). Sad condition, but uncommon nonetheless. There would be some parts interchange with a 60A, but not many.
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Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2024 at 11:10am
I use this website http://www.vbeltguys.com/" rel="nofollow - http://www.vbeltguys.com/ They cross reference Allis part numbers, and they're cheap. I've been running their belts on one of my 60A's for 8 years with no issues.
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Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2024 at 11:17am
Not many differences that I know of. The grain bin has slightly more capacity due to it having a V shape in the bottom of the bin to accommodate an auger to convey grain to the unloading auger. Previous 60s just had a sloped bin floor to funnel grain into the unloading auger. 60As also have a lever actuated jaw type clutch to engage the unloading auger, where the 60s had a knob that must be turned to engage a dry disc clutch, and they notoriously slip when worn. A 60A brochure says they improved the cylinder/header drive gearbox on the 60A, but I don't know what that entails.
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Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2024 at 6:29pm
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So I’m running a grain cart for my brothers and sure enough I found another possible all crop in a creek. Reason I say possible all crop is because im thinking it’s the older style round back…. Will get pictures as so as I can but getting too dark now. ------------- 1955 AC WD45 diesel with D262 repower, 1949 AC WD45 |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2024 at 6:46pm
 ------------- 1955 AC WD45 diesel with D262 repower, 1949 AC WD45 |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2024 at 6:47pm
 ------------- 1955 AC WD45 diesel with D262 repower, 1949 AC WD45 |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2024 at 6:47pm
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The second picture is the rest of the first one I found… ------------- 1955 AC WD45 diesel with D262 repower, 1949 AC WD45 |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2024 at 10:20pm
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Could someone post a picture of the “screens” and what location to find them? Just thinking that maybe one of the two maybe has a screen still and I’m not quite sure what they look like… I don’t have any for the good combine (I think it did oats last it harvested). ------------- 1955 AC WD45 diesel with D262 repower, 1949 AC WD45 |
Posted By: wjohn
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2024 at 7:35pm
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Yep, that looks like two of the earlier combines. Someone must have really hated them or they survived a tornado. If there is a perforated sieve/screen, it will be basically at the bottom of the RH rear stack of racks at the rear of the combine. Stand outside looking down the straw rack (sideways/across the combine) and then go down to the bottom of all the racks/trays. There may be a removable one at the very bottom - or there may not. They are commonly removed or some crops like oats didn't require an additional screen. I wonder if the screens are the same size as used in the later All-Crop 60, 66, and 72? ------------- 1939 B, 1940 B, 1941 WC, 1951 WD, 1952 CA, 1956 WD-45 |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 23 Oct 2024 at 1:49pm
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I wonder if the clean grain buckets will interchange? Also the pto? ------------- 1955 AC WD45 diesel with D262 repower, 1949 AC WD45 |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2024 at 5:33pm
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I got a chance to work on the engine (b125) and got the pan off… It looks pretty good on the bottom side after slipping 2 gallons of water/oil out. So now the fun part of removing the sleeves…. Any advice? ------------- 1955 AC WD45 diesel with D262 repower, 1949 AC WD45 |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2024 at 10:12pm
I got 2 sleeves to come out!! ------------- 1955 AC WD45 diesel with D262 repower, 1949 AC WD45 |
Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2024 at 10:06pm
I have an odd request...would you be able to get the serial off this combine? It's in front of the grain bin stamped on top of the angle iron frame. There aren't many of these 1935-1937 All-Crop Harvesters left, and I haven't seen a 1935 model to date, and only two 1936 machines. Several 1937s, however. Very cool that you have two of them there, even if the condition is poor.
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Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2024 at 10:11pm
The tailings elevator chain should interchange, definitely not on the clean grain elevator chain, however. They are larger buckets on the early model. I don't believe the pto will interchange either, or at least not easily. I know the slip clutches are different, as well as the way they attach to the gearbox. You could possibly modify the shaft to work, just depends how much time you want to spend.
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Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2024 at 10:55pm
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I’ll see what I can do… ------------- 1955 AC WD45 diesel with D262 repower, 1949 AC WD45 |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2025 at 6:46pm
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What are the specs on the rod bearings and main rod bearings? I want to make sure they are standard so I get the right ones the first time. I’ve got 3 sleeves out plus an ER visit yesterday and things are looking good on the block, I haven’t found any cracks yet. The last sleeve (cylinder number 2) is broken up from water freezing and is being very stubborn to remove. I’ll most likely have to replace that rod from beating around it. The ER visit was because I was hammering that sleeve and something slipped (I think the piston broke loose) and the hammer ended up on my left thumb, it popped my nail pretty much off and I thought I had broke the tip but it didn’t… Praise the Lord!!! ------------- 1955 AC WD45 diesel with D262 repower, 1949 AC WD45 |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2025 at 11:48pm
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It’s been awhile since a update but I have been working on it every time I get a chance… I did get all the sleeves to remove and I got the valves off the head, ended up shattering a valve guide but noticed another was broken before (never seen that before). Did get them to come out though. Need your advice, do I go ahead and replace all the valve guides or just the two that are broken? I’m putting all new valves if that makes a difference… Also found that a Kohler K321 intake valve is very close to the b125’s, found that kinda interesting. ------------- 1955 AC WD45 diesel with D262 repower, 1949 AC WD45 |
Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2025 at 7:10am
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Glad I’m not the only one thats looking in the woods when operating tractors. I had thought I seen one but don’t think it’s a all crop.
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