Combine won't start
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Topic: Combine won't start
Posted By: badjeep
Subject: Combine won't start
Date Posted: 27 May 2024 at 2:15pm
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I have an early F combine diesel engine in my CII. I cannot get it to even let out a bit of smoke when cranking it, the primer is pumped tight and I also have an inline electric fuel pump that I can turn on to help with priming. It has fuel to the head of the pump and no air. I have hot wired the solenoid thinking it might be a wiring issue, nothing. Can the solenoid in the pump become stuck in the off position? Pump was gone through around 12 years ago and I have had zero issues with it up until now. Thanks for any help ------------- In the shed- 7020,7060, L2 X (2), CII, WD X (2), 200, 210, 611H, 440, Fiat Allis 345B |
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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 27 May 2024 at 2:20pm
| ON/OFF solenoid must "click" when you turn on the key. Spring shuts it off. Electricity turns it on. |
Posted By: badjeep
Date Posted: 27 May 2024 at 3:56pm
I do not hear a "click", what is my next move? Thanks ------------- In the shed- 7020,7060, L2 X (2), CII, WD X (2), 200, 210, 611H, 440, Fiat Allis 345B |
DrAllis wrote:Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 27 May 2024 at 4:16pm
| Verify that you have 12 volts to the shut-off terminal. |
Posted By: badjeep
Date Posted: 28 May 2024 at 9:07am
Verified ------------- In the shed- 7020,7060, L2 X (2), CII, WD X (2), 200, 210, 611H, 440, Fiat Allis 345B |
Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 28 May 2024 at 10:26am
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odds are the metering valve or plungers are stuck from sitting. Roosa pumps are having this problem at an overwhelming rate! They come in here from every direction for this issue. ------------- 210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers! |
Posted By: badjeep
Date Posted: 29 May 2024 at 1:21pm
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I pulled the top of the pump off and pushed the "needle or valve?" with my finger and it had just a bit of resistance and then opened and worked back and forth fine. Solenoid checked out good and put it back together and all is well. I used to go out to the shed and start everything and let them run for a bit in the middle of winter when we had an occasional warmer spell. Maybe I need to get back into the habit of doing that? ------------- In the shed- 7020,7060, L2 X (2), CII, WD X (2), 200, 210, 611H, 440, Fiat Allis 345B |
Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 29 May 2024 at 3:50pm
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you can run it without the top cover, you'll just have to reach in and move the mv to shut it off. Hopefully it works for you. ------------- 210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers! |
Posted By: badjeep
Date Posted: 29 May 2024 at 5:21pm
Got it put back together and everything is good now, starts right up and shuts off fine. ------------- In the shed- 7020,7060, L2 X (2), CII, WD X (2), 200, 210, 611H, 440, Fiat Allis 345B |
Posted By: TerraTiger
Date Posted: 31 May 2024 at 8:53pm
| Is the D21 solenoid the same? Think I have this same issue Chris describes and wondering if I can remove the screws to that top cap with the wire and verify if the solenoid is moving the plunger or if it is stuck from sitting. |
Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2024 at 10:41am
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Yes ------------- 210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers! |
Posted By: GM Guy
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2024 at 12:48am
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As you found the metering valve will stick with a light varnish layer, seems worse with modern diesel fuels. I have to do this often on resurrection projects. ------------- Gleaner: the properly engineered and built combine. If you need parts for your Gleaner, we are parting out A's through L2's, so we may be able to help. |