1936 Model U-N Orchard / Home with the new tractor
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Topic: 1936 Model U-N Orchard / Home with the new tractor
Posted By: split51
Subject: 1936 Model U-N Orchard / Home with the new tractor
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2010 at 11:25pm
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Well, I got lucky and found a person coming from N Cal to AZ this week and she is going to meet me in Flagstaff on Thursday. That saved me around 1700 miles. Anyways, here is the pictures that they sent me today after they got it loaded and back to their house.
I am still not sure if it would be called an orchard but the seat sure looks to sit very low. I asked them to send me a better pic from the rear.
They said the rear wheel bolt pattern is 7 3/4" on 6, Is that a BP for a UC or what? I would like to put this tractor over on steel if anyone might have a set of narrow rear wheels for it.
The manifold and other missing parts are in the pickup so hopefully I got everything for it.
By the serial number, it should be an early 36. SN U9864
     ------------- 1929 20-35 sn17662 B1 w/snow blade B10 w/sickle mower B110 w/mower deck B110 w/tiller B112 w/grader blade B210 w/plo |
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Posted By: Bret (OH)
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2010 at 9:53am
| Looks like the front axle is very narrow, wonder if it could be an "industrial" model with a narrower tread width? Front axle just looks a bit different somehow. I think the bolt on rear wheels are unique as well. |
Posted By: clovis
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2010 at 10:06am
| Wow...very cool tractor!!! |
Posted By: David Maddux
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2010 at 12:06pm
| I finally had time to check and the UC has the 7 3/4 bolt pattern. Sorry for the delay. Dave. |
Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2010 at 12:10pm
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You need that Orchard Pan scraper I saw advertised to go with that. It was extra narrow but I have no idea why you would need a pan scraper in an orchard.
------------- Charlie '48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
Posted By: split51
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2010 at 11:24am
Here are 2 shots from the rear she sent me. They are not the clearest but atleast it shows the seating arrangement.
  ------------- 1929 20-35 sn17662 B1 w/snow blade B10 w/sickle mower B110 w/mower deck B110 w/tiller B112 w/grader blade B210 w/plo |
Posted By: David Gibson (OH)
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2010 at 12:02pm
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That is a neat looking tractor. It definatly has potential. ------------- David Gibson http://www.darkecountysteam.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.darkecountysteam.com 1956 WD45 |
Posted By: MNLonnie
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2010 at 4:31pm
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Is that the hand clutch lever sticking up? That and the low seat would make it an Industrial model, right? ------------- Waukesha B, B, IB, G, styled WF, D15, 615 backhoe, 2-Oliver OC3's, 4 Ford Model T's, 3 Model A Fords, AV8 Coupe, AV8 Roadster, 1933 Ford Wrecker |
Posted By: split51
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2010 at 4:41pm
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Lonnie, As far as I have found out right now it is an industrial UN, but all of the pictures I have found of a Industrial UN have had the seat sitting ontop of the rearend housing like a normal U.
It came from the orchard groves in N Cal so maybe the steering/seat arrangement was for the orchards. ------------- 1929 20-35 sn17662 B1 w/snow blade B10 w/sickle mower B110 w/mower deck B110 w/tiller B112 w/grader blade B210 w/plo |
Posted By: Bill Long
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2010 at 5:50pm
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Neat tractor!! Let us know how it progresses.
Don't forget these units were very adaptable and were adapted to almost any operation.
Good Luck!
Bill Long
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Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2010 at 11:57pm
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I'm sure it was used in an orchard. They pulled some pretty heavy disks and rippers between the trees to get water to soak in better. Also heavy sprayers needed a powerful tractor to pull them through the orchards. Looks like a couple days work will have her ready for the shows. LOL ------------- "If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer" Allis Express participant |
Posted By: Fred in Pa
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2010 at 6:17am
| Nice UNIT very cool look'in. That lever on the left would be a park brake lever .A friend just up the road from has a I- U .Will Post some good pictures on another post when I get up that way and get some of it again . |
Posted By: split51
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2010 at 6:28pm
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Well, I just got back home from AZ with the UN. The shipper that brought it down from N CA. didnt tie the hood down so if anyone sees a grey hood on the highway in Ca, IT'S MINE!!!!!!.....LOL
After looking it over in person, I believe that everything is factory except for a couple of welded on plates on the hitch.
The tractor has 3 coats of paint. The original is orange, then yellow and the top grey.
This tractor has alot of wear on the shifting lever where it goes through the metal plate but the steering is not heavily worn. No compression when the crank is turned. Other then needing fenders, the right side radiator casting and now a hood, the tractor is very complete and buildable. The manifolds and carb are in the bed of my pickup.
  ------------- 1929 20-35 sn17662 B1 w/snow blade B10 w/sickle mower B110 w/mower deck B110 w/tiller B112 w/grader blade B210 w/plo |
Posted By: split51
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2010 at 6:34pm
  ------------- 1929 20-35 sn17662 B1 w/snow blade B10 w/sickle mower B110 w/mower deck B110 w/tiller B112 w/grader blade B210 w/plo |
Posted By: GARY(OH/IN)
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2010 at 6:39pm
| I lost a hood on north bound I77 once hauling a 5015. Luckily my wife was behind me in our brand new Buick and the hood just missed her as it flew through the air. Picked up the hood and was on our way. She dodged a hood and I dodged a bullet. |
Posted By: split51
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2010 at 6:42pm
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Sorry for the extremely large pictures but my photoshop isnt working.
This also followed me home. It isnt mine, I picked it up for a forum member here.
 ------------- 1929 20-35 sn17662 B1 w/snow blade B10 w/sickle mower B110 w/mower deck B110 w/tiller B112 w/grader blade B210 w/plo |
Posted By: BennyLumpkin
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2010 at 7:30pm
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what is the last pic of?
------------- Central PA Allis Express 1934 WC254 1945 WF 1945 WC135755 1951 WD68085 1953 WD45-150217 1957 WD45D-230744D B110 |
Posted By: GBACBFan
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2010 at 7:34pm
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Looks like an IB carcass. ------------- "The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Mark Twain |
Posted By: split51
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2010 at 7:56pm
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Yes, it is the remains of an IB ------------- 1929 20-35 sn17662 B1 w/snow blade B10 w/sickle mower B110 w/mower deck B110 w/tiller B112 w/grader blade B210 w/plo |
Posted By: AllisChalmers37
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2010 at 9:33pm
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I lost the radiator cap off my 37 WC. Almost hit the car behind us. Good excuse to buy a new one. LOL ------------- 1937 WC, 1950 CA, 1959 D14, 1967 190XT, 2006 Ram 3500 |
Posted By: OrangeKiwi(NZ)
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2010 at 11:54am
What are your intentions with the IB ? Restore or part out ? |
split51 wrote:Posted By: morton(pa)
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2010 at 12:22pm
| I believe he said he picked it up for someone else. |
Posted By: David Maddux
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2010 at 6:19am
| Split: I tried to e-mail you, your box is full. Dave. |
Posted By: TedBuiskerN.IL.
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2010 at 9:45am
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Interesting to see electric start on a 36 model. ------------- Most problems can be solved with the proper application of high explosives. |