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Topic: Heavy duty diesel anti-freeze
Posted By: automaticdave
Subject: Heavy duty diesel anti-freeze
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2024 at 9:31am
Could someone tell me what active ingredient & the name of that heavy duty diesel anti-freeze that the Doc recommends us to use, and if we use that coolent can I remove the water conditioner kit thats on my engine? Thanks Dave



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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2024 at 11:11am
Heavy Duty diesel coolant with SCA's (supplemental coolant additives) to protect from cavitation erosion. Coolant is a reddish pink in color.


Posted By: automaticdave
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2024 at 3:10pm
Thanks Doc, and then can I get rid of that water filter ?


Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2024 at 3:29pm
You NEED to get rid of the filter to be safe.


Posted By: Les Kerf
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2024 at 4:07pm
Would this be a good thing or a bad thing to use in an HD5G with a 2-71 Detroit?


Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2024 at 4:34pm
2-71 Detroit's are a dry sleeve aren't they ??


Posted By: HudCo
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2024 at 6:03pm
nalcool 2000 ?          


Posted By: Hurst
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2024 at 6:18pm
The red ECL antifreeze will also prevent cavitation and doesn't require an additive.  You can keep your coolant filter running any red elc coolant, but need to make sure you get the filter without the additive in it, just a filter media.  If you use a coolant that needs an additive, you can get a filter that has a buffered additive cube in it to keep releasing the additive as needed.  

My go-to is usually the Delo ELC or the Rotella ELC coolant.  Both readily available.  

Hurst


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Posted By: Les Kerf
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2024 at 9:55pm
Originally posted by DrAllis DrAllis wrote:

2-71 Detroit's are a dry sleeve aren't they ??


I do not know


Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2024 at 7:09am
Originally posted by Les Kerf Les Kerf wrote:

Originally posted by DrAllis DrAllis wrote:

2-71 Detroit's are a dry sleeve aren't they ??


I do not know

YES, 71 series are dry sleeve, 53 and 92 series are wet though.


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Posted By: Oldwrench
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2024 at 7:35am
Just a question, but would there be any problems running the red heavy duty antifreeze in regular gas engine applications, other than perhaps being more expensive?  Just keeping one anti-freeze mix around would be simpler, and if it adds some additional protection even if not needed in a gas motor, why not?  Also, is it compatible with the green stuff if one added it to another cooling system?


Posted By: Codger
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2024 at 8:05am
[QUOTE=Oldwrench]Just a question, but would there be any problems running the red heavy duty antifreeze in regular gas engine applications, other than perhaps being more expensive?  Just keeping one anti-freeze mix around would be simpler, and if it adds some additional protection even if not needed in a gas motor, why not?  Also, is it compatible with the green stuff if one added it to another cooling system?
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I'm not a coolant expert by far however look at the constituent product base(s). If Ethylene glycol based they should be compatible. Don't intermix propylene glycol, and ethylene glycol based coolants as they are basically incompatible.


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Posted By: 8070nc
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2024 at 8:07am
Right or wrong I run it in every thing. Never had a problem

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1984 80780
1957 D14
DES 300 with 25000 engine
616 tractor


Posted By: Les Kerf
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2024 at 8:59am
Originally posted by injpumpEd injpumpEd wrote:

Originally posted by Les Kerf Les Kerf wrote:

Originally posted by DrAllis DrAllis wrote:

2-71 Detroit's are a dry sleeve aren't they ??


I do not know

YES, 71 series are dry sleeve, 53 and 92 series are wet though.


Thank you Ed Smile


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2024 at 8:59am
you can basically run any antifreeze in a gas engine... as long as it is CLEAN and you dont MIX varieties as Codger said.

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Posted By: Allis dave
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2024 at 9:53am
We run it in everything. I would jsut do a flush before I started adding and mixing it.



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