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Topic: clutch relining

Posted By: Freewheeling
Subject: clutch relining
Date Posted: 29 Feb 2024 at 7:47am

I understand that Rick Corder no longer does clutch and brake relining. Is there anyone reputable who does this anymore?

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Posted By: Allis dave
Date Posted: 29 Feb 2024 at 11:32am

Rick stil does brakes, but no more clutches

Check around for local Places. I"M in Northern Indiana and there are 2 local places South Bend Clutch and Fort Wayne Clutch that do clutches.

Are they as good as an OEE clutch? I don't know. Local New Holland Mechanic says everytime they use a reman'd South Bend clutch, they have to replace it in a year.

I did the clutch in my 180 2 years ago. I bought a new AGCO clutch and had South Bend clutch resurface and rebuild the pressure plate and they turned the flywheel. Everything seems ot be working ok so I'm happy with their work.

Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2024 at 8:16pm

Just do a search for them; clutch repair in Wisconsin.

There are a LOT of them on the east side of the state.

There are a few here in La Crosse also.

Where are you located?

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Posted By: Freewheeling
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2024 at 10:19pm

I'm located in Sheboygan Falls which is halfway between Green Bay & Milwaukee. I haven't searched locally yet because I was hoping to get a recommendation on one that has a good reputation. I only want to split the tractor once. I plan to open it up next week and see what I've got.

Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2024 at 6:45am

Just an incident with South Bend Clutch: A few years back I got a clutch kit for my Dad's 89 Dodge Diesel 5 speed. Got everything and installed it. everything seemed fine until one day my wife was out in the truck and called to say it quit moving and would not hold on a hill with the engine off and in gear. After having AAA tow the truck home, when I pulled the transmission, I found that the driving splines in the clutch disc had torn from the disc. This disc was not made as most all the clutch discs are, with a set of splines made into a solid hub the damping springs to the disc, it had a hub pressed into a bunch of fingers with a plastic insert to the disc. The disc had "Made in China" stamped into the disc. At this time the truck had less than 15,000 miles since the clutch had been installed. When I called South Bend about this, they said they didn't sell any Chinese parts, When I confronted them with pictures of the disc with "Made in China" stamped in to it they wanted to know how old this was after digging into the records, I found that this was purchased and installed in 1999. They still wouldn't admit it was a Chinese part and no warranty could be given. I let them know they were lucky enough to be able to survive without my business or anyone I could influence.

At that time Rick Corder sold me a clutch disc that had the splined dampened hub like a REAL clutch disc should be. That dis has been in the truck for nearly 22 years now and has worked fine.

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Posted By: Rick
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2024 at 7:34am

South Bend Clutch or Kentucky Clutch...both good rebuilders...

Posted By: sparky
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2024 at 8:09am

Kentucky clutch does all of mine and they are close also but I had Rick rebuild the hand clutch on my CA.

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Posted By: Codger
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2024 at 8:18am

I've installed several clutches from both builders over the years and never a problem I'm aware of.

Not all clutches are spring dampened. I have several that are rigid mount. My 12V-71T Detroit Diesel has rigid mounted clutch discs installed and they are South Bend Clutch vendored. I want to say the 1693TA Caterpillar engine also has a South Bend Clutch setup but they are spring dampened.

I don't remember seeing anything branded "Made in China" on either vendor's setups. Both have worked well for me over the years in heavy trucks applications with a couple of pickup trucks thrown into the mix.

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Posted By: Freewheeling
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2024 at 8:47am

Thanks Paul. That is exactly what I'm trying to avoid. There are a number of on-line sellers today but most of their parts are Chinese junk. My old appliances, tools, lawn/garden equipment and tractors outlast the new crap with computer chips and plastic components. My wife's Subaru has a $1,500 electronic "thermo control valve" (thermostat), that failed @ 20,000. I think my WD still has the original.