Henry Bale loader. Pro's and con's
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Topic: Henry Bale loader. Pro's and con's
Posted By: Macon Rounds
Subject: Henry Bale loader. Pro's and con's
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2024 at 9:31pm
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Are there better small square bale pop up bale loaders than the Henry? I have heard good things Henry and NH. Feedback encouraged. ------------- The Allis "D" Series Tractors, Gravely Walk behind Tractors, Cowboy Action Shooting !!!!!!! And Checkmate |
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Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2024 at 9:26am
| Not knowing what a Henry looked like, I found several examples on the net and not real impressed. But for one over here on the dry side we make tighter bales that handle better with any machine. But at the same time, you use what is available in your area. There may be some adjustment that could be made to the Henry. All loaders I have used where less steep, not needing the push down mechanism, so you could grab them and roll it to you without letting it get all the way to the top. Any machine that helps lift anything is worth trying. |
Posted By: Bull
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2024 at 9:43am
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I have used a Henry but prefer the conveyer type as you can set the discharge level as you go. ------------- WD45 Diesel, RC,CA,IB, B, G, 616, Early B-10, D-10, Terra Tiger, 95G spreader, SC blade |
Posted By: Macon Rounds
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2024 at 11:02am
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Conveyer type ??? Photos or link would be appreciated.... I am not set on any type at this point.... ------------- The Allis "D" Series Tractors, Gravely Walk behind Tractors, Cowboy Action Shooting !!!!!!! And Checkmate |
Posted By: Stan R
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2024 at 12:35pm
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Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2024 at 1:33pm
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If you have to have someone driving the tractor and someone on the wagon, why not just tow the wagon behind the baler and save one more trip over the field? |
Posted By: Macon Rounds
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2024 at 2:13pm
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Have baled onto wagon in the past ... Went to BIG bale wagons but still have OLD baler. Wagons push the baler in turns on steep ground. Kinda scary..... ------------- The Allis "D" Series Tractors, Gravely Walk behind Tractors, Cowboy Action Shooting !!!!!!! And Checkmate |
Posted By: Pat the Plumber CIL
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2024 at 9:44pm
The reason my father always baled on the ground was he was a dairy farmer and claimed that he didn't have time to hook wagons up to the baler . He felt he had to run the baler and he also needed to milk the cows but did not have a lot of time. My brother and I had all the time in the world to load the bales and get them in the barn . We did have a bale loader that hooked to the side of the wagon and helped greatly. ------------- You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails 1964 D-17 SIV 3 Pt.WF,1964 D-15 Ser II 3pt.WF ,1960 D-17 SI NF,1956 WD 45 WF. |
WF owner wrote:Posted By: Bull
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2024 at 4:22pm
I cannot remember the brand or find any photos. Basically it is a hay elevator about15-18 feet long on two wheels . It has a landing at the top that the bale sits on until you pull it away if you don’t get to it the next one pushes it off onto the truck. It has a lift mechanism that raises it from about waste high standing on the truck to waste high standing on 3 layers of bales. It has a sprocket on the axle that drives the chain. Very simple and works well. If I find a photo I will post it. ------------- WD45 Diesel, RC,CA,IB, B, G, 616, Early B-10, D-10, Terra Tiger, 95G spreader, SC blade |
Posted By: Dennis J OPKs
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2024 at 5:26pm
| If you were lucky enough to use a Roto-Baler, can't pull a wagon behind. In which case the Allis tractor mounted loader worked quite well, just needed a good kid driving the tractor who knew exactly where to spike & turn the bale to get it on the conveyor. One downside was you needed a tractor devoted only to that job. |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2024 at 7:07pm
Back when I was running cattle, baling with a rotobaler, I used to hook up the snow blade to the ATV, and push as many bales (sometimes 20) as I could onto the field. Then push another 20 toward the first, repeat as necessary. So I'd have a pile of 40 together, here and there, throughout the field. Then I'd drive the dump truck down, and load 4-5 piles into it, drive up, dump at barn and repeat as necessary. wasn't perfect, but it was quick...  ------------- Source: Babylon Bee. Sponsored by BRAWNDO, its got what you need! |
Posted By: Bull
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2024 at 8:27pm
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I finally remembered the brand is Meyer. There is a picture on Yesterday’s Tractor. ------------- WD45 Diesel, RC,CA,IB, B, G, 616, Early B-10, D-10, Terra Tiger, 95G spreader, SC blade |
Posted By: Macon Rounds
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2024 at 8:46pm
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Meyer I will look into it !!! ------------- The Allis "D" Series Tractors, Gravely Walk behind Tractors, Cowboy Action Shooting !!!!!!! And Checkmate |
Posted By: Lars(wi)
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2024 at 11:50pm
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If I remember correctly, New Holland had the ‘Bale Wagon’? It picked up the bales, stacked them on the wagon. Certain models would unload one bale at a time onto an elevator/conveyor, or the back of the wagon would open, and floor conveyor chains would push the whole stack out, all nicely stacked on the ground. ------------- I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science. |
Posted By: Pat the Plumber CIL
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2024 at 12:26pm
 I finally found a picture of the model we used .In the picture it is laying down in transport mode. It stands up and attaches to the side of the wagon. We had a 1/2" bolt that stuck up out of the side of the wagon about 3 inches. The loader was lifted on to it and gravity would keep it on the wagon. Drive alongside and chain would conveyer bales up and rest baleon a platform. If you didn't pull the bale off the next one would push it off . Worked with both square and small rounds. My little sister was just old enough to steer the tractor. I would get her going in the right direction, jump off tractor, climb on moving wagon, stack the wagon full , climb off wagon to get on tractor to stop. Oh what fun !!! ------------- You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails 1964 D-17 SIV 3 Pt.WF,1964 D-15 Ser II 3pt.WF ,1960 D-17 SI NF,1956 WD 45 WF. |
Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2024 at 4:03pm
| Looks like it was ground driven? |
Posted By: jvin248
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2024 at 4:26pm
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. If I were messing with small square bales now, alone, I'd get a bale accumulator behind the baler to drop the eight, ten, or a dozen together in a flat group, then use a loader tractor with a grid grappler to pick up the flat group and stack on a flatbed truck/wagon. No real cycle time difference than dropping big round bales and stacking with spears on a wagon. We did a lot of direct drop off the baler with a rolling truck, lift and stack, back when I was a kid. We ran a lighter tractor on the baler alone than what we used to trail a wagon. When I saw YouTube videos of the NH stacker trucks I was envious. It was always a hundred degrees in that hay mow too. .
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Posted By: dr p
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2024 at 7:18pm
| My father, the infidel, had a new holland 1034 bale wagon. Picked up 105 bales at a time and could put them in a stack or unload them on a elevator. Need a 1/4 turn chute on the baler, but the wagon doesn't a lot of horsepower to run it. And they don't have a lot of resale value |
Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2024 at 6:47am
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A friend of mine bought an older New Holland Bale Wagon a few years ago. On the first day, he went out and baled about 800 bales of hay and dropped them on the ground (they had baled on a wagon before).
I drove by late that afternoon and the bale wagon was sitting on the side of the field with a few bales on it and they were picking up bales and throwing them on the wagon by hand. I stopped to give them a hand and asked if the bale wagon broke. It hadn't broke, but they said it would take hours to pick up a load (with a few more adjectives). After they got an owner's manual and some practice, they used it for years. I've heard similar stories from other owners. |