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Topic: Oil Weight
Posted By: Avigil2001
Subject: Oil Weight
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2023 at 10:31am
Hello guys got a 1952 CA that i am trying to get ready for spring! It has been completely drained of fluids when i bought it and i found that the oil filter had 15/40 written on it i assumed it meant 15w40 was used is this a good oil weight to put in the tractor or is it to heavy? Also is universal tractor fluid good for the hydraulic system or something else? i appreciate any answer!



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Posted By: HoughMade
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2023 at 12:11pm
The old manuals will say 30wt, but I have been running 15w40 for years without a problem.  My only caveat is that I don't use the tractor in the winter.

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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2023 at 12:24pm
15w40 or 10w30 oil is fine.. The  15 or 10 is basically the COLD viscosity, so that is good for winter startup.... Original was 20 wt winter and 30 wt summer.

Universal tractor fluid is great for the trans / bevel gear / hydraulics...

Dont forget the final drive oil pans inside the wheel rim..  you will have to remove them to clean and reinstall..... Takes about a quart of 80-90 gear lube in each..


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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2023 at 12:27pm
They probably used the 15w40 because it was STANDARD with the larger Diesel tractors on their farm.... Thats fine, but normally 10w 30 would be your choice.

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Posted By: Ed (Ont)
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2023 at 5:23pm
I use 15-40 in my WD45. Works great. If you do a lot of cold starts in winter then go to 5-40 synthetic for easier startup.


Posted By: Les Kerf
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2023 at 8:09pm
If I were planning to work my Model C hard in the summer I would run 15W-40, however, I don't ever work it hard so I run 10W-30 and if I were using it in the winter I would use 5W-30


Posted By: DMac
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2023 at 8:51pm
keep in mind that the oils of today are far superior to what they were in 1952, so probably most anything will be fine 


Posted By: Lars(wi)
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2023 at 9:14pm
O GOODIE, AN OIL THREAD!!🎉🎉 I’ll get some popcorn.

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Posted By: Ed (Ont)
Date Posted: 24 Dec 2023 at 1:46pm
What brand of popcorn? What oil did you use on it? Smile


Posted By: Lars(wi)
Date Posted: 24 Dec 2023 at 2:39pm
Originally posted by Ed (Ont) Ed (Ont) wrote:

What brand of popcorn? What oil did you use on it? Smile

Definitely butter. Any brand of popcorn that floats your boat.

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Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2023 at 7:12pm
Use NON DETERGENT butter, not they synthetic "Margarine" or Vegatable-based butter...



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Posted By: Avigil2001
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2023 at 2:23am
Thank you guys for all the answers!


Posted By: Phil48ACWC
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2023 at 9:36am
Where does oil WEIGHT come from? When referring to 10W-30, W is for WINTER. Not WEIGHT. Motor oil weighs 8.35 pounds per gallon and has nothing to do with viscosity.

The general reference is VISCOSITY. 


Posted By: Codger
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2023 at 9:39am
Just like "condenser" rather than capacitor of which it really is.  So many years have transpired it's part of the jargon. Same thing with "Band-Aid".

For many years we ran straight SAE 20W oil in the colder months, and SAE 30W in the warmer months. Straight 30W oil in the Detroit Diesels all year round with engine preheaters installed. 

Still have a barrel of each in the shop. 


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Posted By: Ed (Ont)
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2023 at 7:32pm
Never knew the"W" stood for winter. So 50W is winter oil???


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2023 at 9:29pm
Oil viscosity has always been referred to as WEIGHT... Google  "20 weight oil" and you will get PAGES of hits.... If you have ONE NUMBER like 20W , 30W, 50W ... that is called 50 WEIGHT oil and has a viscosity THICKER than 40w or 30w.. ...

If you have TWO numbers like 10W 30 ..(multi- viscosity)... the W is the WINTER RATING (10 weight) and the second number is the SUMMER RATING ( 30 wt) ................ In reality it is VISCOSITY, but has been called WEIGHT for a hundred years.

and referring to it as "50 weight" is a lot easier to remember than " 210 centistokes @40 degree C"..  Wink

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