185 coolant heaterinstall
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Topic: 185 coolant heaterinstall
Posted By: captaindana
Subject: 185 coolant heaterinstall
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2023 at 6:59pm
Last year I installed a coolant heater tank type on a 185 using the bottom radiator drain coming out of the heater going into an outlet up by the thermostat. It works great but this 185 does not have a place by the thermostat tapped for a nipple. Where do y’all go in-this situation? Thanks. Dana ------------- Blue Skies and Tail Winds Dana |
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Posted By: Lynn Marshall
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2023 at 7:43pm
| I have drilled and tapped the thermostat housings many times over the years. |
Posted By: Lynn Marshall
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2023 at 8:04pm
| Couple of other things. I would have thought that 185 either had a factory type block heater on the right side or at least the holes would be there to put a factory heater in the block. If you are committed to the tank type heater design, then I used to run the lower heater hose back to the block drain rather than the radiator drain. I believe that the heater will work better and heat the block more efficiently. If the way that you have the other 185 plumbed works, then just do the same. |
Posted By: captaindana
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2023 at 4:27am
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Lynn I would MUCH rather install a block heater. On the right side? I’ll go take a look. Thanks! And I knew you would suggest drilling and tapping😁. Thanks. Dana ------------- Blue Skies and Tail Winds Dana |
Posted By: Alvin M
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2023 at 4:40am
| It should have a two bolt plate above the starter heater # is 70256705 |
Posted By: captaindana
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2023 at 5:55am
 Is this circle thing what I remove to put heater into? If so how does one remove, I never have… ------------- Blue Skies and Tail Winds Dana |
Posted By: Alvin M
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2023 at 7:28am
| Make sure the top hole has good threads first then use sharp tool punch hole in plug and pop plug out then clean paint off real good install heater with gasket |
Posted By: Lynn Marshall
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2023 at 7:57am
| Exactly what Alvin said. 7/16ths coarse thread tap. |
Posted By: HudCo
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2023 at 8:26am
| that is the frost plug if their is a kats block heater for it , parts store should be able to find aplication |
Posted By: captaindana
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2023 at 10:03am
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Ok y’all got me confused (doesn’t take much). Block heaters I have on other engines just slide in the block and get tightened so the rubber O rings seal. Apparently you guys have ones that bolt on?? ------------- Blue Skies and Tail Winds Dana |
Posted By: Alvin M
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2023 at 10:06am
| Yes the AGCO is 70256705 or Kats # is 30208 or Google it I have three in stock for 90.43 plus shipping |
Posted By: captaindana
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2023 at 10:12am
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Ok I see now…thanks! Dana ------------- Blue Skies and Tail Winds Dana |
Posted By: calico190xt68
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2023 at 8:50am
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I took my frost plug out of my Early 190 to put in a block heater. Punching a hole it to remove did not work for me. I ended up drilling a hole in it, then I pushed a heavy duty punch into the hole, then I took a small sledge and hit it on top of the punch to "pry" the plug out. It took a lot of hits but it came. I mangled that plug pretty good. The other thing to watch out for is getting good sealant and good tightness. My casting hole was actually a little oblong so I had to perform surgery. I ended up using a drill to remove some of the casting flange that was causing a bad fit and leakage. I did not have the 7/16 screw hole like you do so mine was tightened with internal clamps so the misfit flange was a big deal. I used tank heaters but block heater is the way to go and worth the effort. It is warm in 30-45 minutes. ------------- 80 7010, 80 7020. 67 190XTD Series I w/500 Loader, AC 2000 Plow, AC 4 row Planter, AC 77G Rake, Member Indiana A-C Partners, Member TAC |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2023 at 10:01am
looks like this.......... ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: DanielW
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2023 at 10:21am
I put the same block heater in my 180 last year. Best price I found was from the local Agco (Massey Fergeson) dealer - about $95 CAD and it only took them a couple of days to get. Easy install: I like how these ones seal against the block rather than the typical O-ring compression style. The O-ring style are prone to leak if the block has any pitting around the frost plug hole.
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Alvin M wrote:Posted By: captaindana
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2023 at 8:02pm
Done ------------- Blue Skies and Tail Winds Dana |