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Is a B and a C and a CE engine

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Topic: Is a B and a C and a CE engine
Posted By: captaindana
Subject: Is a B and a C and a CE engine
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2023 at 2:13pm
Same engine? Y’all have a safe weekend. Thanks DANA

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Blue Skies and Tail Winds
                          Dana



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Posted By: dfwallis
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2023 at 2:36pm
Originally posted by captaindana captaindana wrote:

Same engine? Y’all have a safe weekend. Thanks DANA

Depends on the year (SN).  

B had a 113CI Waukesha, then a 116CI BE, then a 125.2CI CE
C had a 125.2CI CE 
CA had a 125.2CI CE with slightly higher compression ratio.


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2023 at 4:22pm
The WAK engine was only used in the first 97 B tractor or so.. about 1937... Then for 3-4 years the B had a 116 inch BE motor... Sometime late 1940 the model C came out and the motor was changed to a CE 125 inch and used in BOTH the B and C till 1950.... Then the C was replaced with the CA tractor and continued to use the CE engine till 1958 or so..

There were a few "changes" in the compression ratio over the years, but the same basic engine was used  ...... and you can put new pistons and liners in a BE engine to get to the CE engine specs.


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Like them all, but love the "B"s.


Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2023 at 5:02pm
Don't forget the RC. That had a B/C engine in it as well. I think that only had the 125 version if I remember correctly....
Steve@B&B


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39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife


Posted By: Nathan (SD)
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2023 at 5:33pm
Originally posted by Steve in NJ Steve in NJ wrote:

Don't forget the RC. That had a B/C engine in it as well. I think that only had the 125 version if I remember correctly....
Steve@B&B


Identified by the CR prefix on the engine serial no.


Posted By: captaindana
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2023 at 7:46pm
Thanks y’all

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Blue Skies and Tail Winds
                          Dana


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2023 at 8:03am
If ya ever went to the County Fair from 1950 - 2000 you probably saw one of them engines running the Ferris Wheel or other Ride.... Dont see as many these days.

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Like them all, but love the "B"s.


Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2023 at 8:58am
Yup! Yer' right Nathan. Forgot bout' that. My RC engine has the "CR" code on it....


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39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife


Posted By: wjohn
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2023 at 6:08pm
Now hang on... I always thought the RC engine had an "R" prefix and "CR" was from a power unit. Is that wrong?

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1939 B, 1940 B, 1941 WC, 1951 WD, 1952 CA, 1956 WD-45


Posted By: GreenOrange
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2023 at 2:15pm
RCs had an “R” prefix. There were also “R” prefix power units and then the CR prefix followed those. RC was out of production by then.
No idea why they weren’t “RE” to follow the same labeling convention.


Posted By: dfwallis
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2023 at 3:30pm
Shows RC as distillate only low compression engine rather than gas.



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