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Topic: valve guide installation
Posted By: tractorboy
Subject: valve guide installation
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2023 at 4:24pm
Getting ready to install new valve guides in son's D10 III, rebuild. The new ones from reliance, seem to be knurled at one end. My question is,  is that the end that's at the top ??  Also has a line bout 3/4 ''  toward one end, I guess that's for depth but thought I'd follow the manual, says use straight edge & make them even with valve cover mating surface. Any help appreciated, keith so. va.



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Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2023 at 6:51am
I've made a bushing the correct length that will only allow them to press in to the correct height.  

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Posted By: tractorboy
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2023 at 11:12am
Knurled end at the top???


Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2023 at 6:24am
The Knurling would go into the head. That's what holds them in place as they are most likely made in China somewhere and they didn't convert inches to MM correctly. The OEM guides are the correct size and smooth from end to end.

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Posted By: tractorboy
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2023 at 5:33pm
The knurled part is on the INSIDE of the valve guide, still want to know if that end goes up???


Posted By: Lynn Marshall
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2023 at 9:40pm
In my  opinion, yes.


Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2023 at 4:04am
I would assume that it goes in knurled side to the inside. you may want to search the internet using more specific terms that I did. I entered "installation of knurled valve guides" into YT and one of the first videos to come up was this:

https://youtu.be/OCLucg2SC7Q?si=EhAYpKcXwqZ30z1U" rel="nofollow - https://youtu.be/OCLucg2SC7Q?si=EhAYpKcXwqZ30z1U




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Posted By: Les Kerf
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2023 at 8:18am
Yikes! Brand new valve guides that are already knurled?!? Thumbs Down
Knurling valve guides was a common way to get a bit more life out of a worn-out engine when parts were expensive and labor was cheap back in the bad old days and everyone was happy if a car engine went 60,000 miles.

Perhaps I am missing something or I am merely confused Confused


Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2023 at 11:24pm
I'll second Les on this... knurling on the INSIDE is done as a temp fix for wear.

if it's on something from China, I'll bet that what they did, was pull out guides from an old head, and copy them... knurling and all...

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Posted By: wjohn
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2023 at 11:58pm
The AGCO valve guides I bought for my WD had spiral marks inside of them - I presume for oil control, with no seals?

The old ones I took out also had them.


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