How to build a wagon???
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Topic: How to build a wagon???
Posted By: NCAllisnut
Subject: How to build a wagon???
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2010 at 8:18pm
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I think I have found a wagon running gear I can afford. I'm a little unclear on how the wagon frame and bed flex over uneven ground. It looks like to me that is the wooden runners that sit on the running gear were fastened down tight on both ends, the bed would be flexing all the time, and the fasteners in the wood would loosen up. Am I missing something? am I making any sense with the question?
Thanks,
Adam |
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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2010 at 8:42pm
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The runners were left to float. Old hayracks I've seen had a long piece of no9 wire around each corner but not tight. The wagon gear frame would have vertical pieces in four corners. The runners set between these and would have a vertical piece of wood attached in front and behind the vertical frame pieces. Clear as mud now ha. Maybe I can find a picture.
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Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2010 at 8:46pm
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Usually the front cross frame of the running gear has some side to side pivot to take up some of that twist. So you can anchor the rack to the back cross piece and the rack won't get twisted so much. Otherwise usually the front and rear axles and pivot freely on the center pole of the running gear. Gerald J. |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2010 at 8:49pm
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Here you go. Warren has the rear frame bolted but for a wagon, just screw or nail a vertical piece of wood on either side of the short vertical metal piece. That will keep it from sliding for and aft and gravity will do the rest. Charlie  Se ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: TMiller/NC
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2010 at 8:56pm
| Adam, I would like to find a wagon running gear close by, if you see another give me a shout. By the way are you going to Arden this year? Tim |
Posted By: NCAllisnut
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2010 at 9:01pm
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I doubt I'll make it to Arden. My little girl has a soccer game at 12:00 or 1:00 tomorrow, and I will be making as many pens as possible this weekend for a holiday craft show coming up next weekend. I have to sell enough pens to pay for the running gear and the lumber.
Adam
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Posted By: NCAllisnut
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2010 at 9:05pm
Here is the running gear I am looking at. I'll have to find a longer reach, I think that is what the center pipe is called.
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Posted By: JoeO(CMO)
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2010 at 9:13pm
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Wagon gears could be equipped with bolsters, front and rear. This was because of keeping the bed level. Fronts were refereed to as "rocking bolster" and the rear was more solid, non pivoting. Some fronts pivoted on a single point like a WFE. If equipped with a hoist, usually they was sufficient, but height was becoming an issue. The wagon frame pivots front to rear around the long center pipe ------------- |
Posted By: Murph-NC
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2010 at 9:29pm
| Adam, I don't see what that running gear has over ours... LOL... just kidding. That looks like a good one, even the tires are in great shape it appears. Tim, we've got one that Adam looked at... he might be willing to give you an unbiased opinion. It's rough around the edges to say the least. |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2010 at 9:31pm
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That reach might be long enough.Usually you can extend them by removing a pin and sliding it apart. ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: NCAllisnut
Date Posted: 23 Oct 2010 at 10:16am
| I think he said he had cut it off. There should be some pipe hanging out the front or back as close as the axles are. |