AC 190 Front Mounted Tool Bar
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Topic: AC 190 Front Mounted Tool Bar
Posted By: DPKII
Subject: AC 190 Front Mounted Tool Bar
Date Posted: 24 Oct 2023 at 1:08pm
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My grandpa purchased a 190 diesel new in 1964. It was a demonstrator model and it came with a front mounted tool bar with busters. I have many hours of seat time on the 190 growing up and purchased it from grandma many years after grandpa passed. It is still running but badly in need of sheet metal work. I have it in the shop now for some preservation work on the sheet metal and 3 point adapter repair/reinforcement. It still has the snap hitch. Is anyone familiar with a 190 front mounted tool bar? I have searched but found nothing on it. The tractor still has the front forks where the weights would go for the tool bar mount and the side locator knobs on the frame rails. Thanks, David |
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Posted By: Mattman
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2023 at 6:19am
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Does this one have a pic of what you are speaking of?
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Posted By: Mattman
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2023 at 6:21am
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Posted By: DPKII
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2023 at 9:24am
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No, it is similar but instead of a flat plate across the front it has forks sticking out forwards. I will get a picture of mine this evening and try to post it. I should have done that from the beginning now that I think about it. From what Dad has told me is this was the first 190 in the area and the dealership brought it to Grandpa's field to demonstrate with the front mounted busters (5). It never left because Grandpa bought the 190 with the busters. I never saw the front implement mounted. Grandpa had installed a 3 point adapter and used all pull equipment since I can remember. David
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Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2023 at 8:51pm
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Interesting, a series III, says original paint with no Landhandler decal? ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |
Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2023 at 9:34pm
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Look anything like that  What type of farming did he do
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Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2023 at 10:06pm
| Im from IL....what is a buster? |
Posted By: DPKII
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2023 at 8:26am
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Mike, Yes, that is what it looks like. I never saw the tool bar mounted on the tractor but that has to be it. Grandpa farmed row crop early on (corn, beans, cotton, milo) at different times. Then switched to all hay (square bales). I have lots of time on the 190 in the hay field. Buster may not be the correct term. The proper term is probably moldboard plow. Around here I always heard them called busters. Probably slang since they were used to bust up the ground I suppose. David |
Posted By: DPKII
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2023 at 8:31am
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I have some pictures of the fork mount on the tractor. I will try to upload them. David uploads/23710/190c.jpg" rel="nofollow - uploads/23710/190c.jpg
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Posted By: DPKII
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2023 at 8:32am
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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2023 at 8:41am
------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: DPKII
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2023 at 8:48am
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Steve, Thanks for reposting the picture in the reply. How do you do that? I have not figured out a way to make that work. And if anyone has any more info or close up pictures/drawings of the front mounted equipment I would love to see them. I still have the toolbar and frame from the setup but not the plows. I never knew they existed until a few years ago as what was left of it was piled in a fence line with nature growth all around. Mom had some people cleaning up her place for scrap iron and unfortunately I was only able to save the toolbar and frame. The plows had already been hauled away. I am sure they were in bad shape as the Texas gulf coast is not kind to things left outside in the weather. David |
Posted By: Macon Rounds
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2023 at 7:42am
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Most likely your tool bar is the same size square tubing as rear mounted Allis cultivators use.. Yes, Cultivator is what you have there.... You have the unique part the "tool bar" and cultivator parts can still be found. Never saw one on the front of a 190 except in photos. That's really cool ! ------------- The Allis "D" Series Tractors, Gravely Walk behind Tractors, Cowboy Action Shooting !!!!!!! And Checkmate |
Posted By: KJCHRIS
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2023 at 2:57am
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MikeZ picture sure looks like a front mount 4 row Row Crop cultivator to me. Anyone know if AC offered them in 6 row? I've only ever seen 2 of them for 100 & 200 tractors. 1 was near Kimbalton, Iowa up until late 1990's on a 200. 2 was at a consignment auction near Blair, Nebr about same time. It was on a beatup non-running 190. ------------- AC 200, CAH, AC185D bareback, AC 180D bareback, D17 III, WF. D17 Blackbar grill, NF. D15 SFW. Case 1175 CAH, Bobcat 543B, |
Posted By: DPKII
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2023 at 8:50pm
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Did the cultivator have sweeps. The plows that were with this tool bar were a single turn kind of like a molboard plow but possibly smaller. Basically a pointed triangle. How did the attachments to the front bar raise and lower. Some sort of connecting rod to the back or did the entire tool bar fold up like wings?
Worked on the hood this weekend cutting out rusted sections and welding in new metal. David |
Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2023 at 9:42pm
| You can get many different types of cultivator sweeps, shovels, points |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2023 at 11:47pm
| looks like a cultivator mount to me, have seen similar looking mounts on other brands of tractors, also saw what appeared to be the same mount on the front of a WD45 once. |