Allis 180 Turbo
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Topic: Allis 180 Turbo
Posted By: wd45tim
Subject: Allis 180 Turbo
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2023 at 8:03pm
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Can you install a 190 turbo on a 180 diesel for 5 mph pulling at 20% over stock rpms without hurting the motor? Approximately how much hp can you get safely?
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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2023 at 8:47pm
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If your 180 injection pump is set for 64 HP output with 2200 RPM top speed, I doubt that a 190 XT turbo addition would gain much of anything. Maybe a couple of HP but nothing spectacular. The 190 engine is set for more fuel delivery for 77 HP and 2400 RPM. A 190XT has even more fuel delivery with the turbo and makes 94 HP easily. Yes you can add the XT turbo but you need more fuel to make things happen. A 180 also has smaller injectors than a 190 or 190XT.
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Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2023 at 9:07am
As mentioned, the nozzles in a 180/185/190 are smaller than a 190XT/200, all the way up to the 7060. Add the turbo, but it won't gain much hp until it's fed more fuel. The 180/185 are set so low on fuel delivery too.
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210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers!
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Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2023 at 2:30pm
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Seems everyone I know working to raise HP on a diesel automatically think Turbo, Turbochargers were developed as 'Altitude Compensation" originally, nothing more in general. As engines Uprated they became air boost supercharger devices HOWEVER, as noted requires MORE fuel to get the devices to 'Spool Up' where if get too much fuel all you will do is wash cylinder walls down and smoke a piston or pistons. We built IH Diesel series Pullers in the 1980s, had to O-Ring the Blocks to heads once got to the magic More Fuel and Boost as the head gaskets were NOT intended for the pressures presented, figure on that as your next dilemma once add all the above.
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Posted By: DanWi
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2023 at 11:09am
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The 301 was up to 130hp in combines so the motor should be good to that point just a matter of pump, injectors and turbo to get you there.
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Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2023 at 12:13pm
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Have to consider valve train and timing of cam beyond pump timing, then the pistons whether or not been decompressed to handle the heavier fuel load and firing shock load. Not all is basic stock with just more fuel.
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