Zip System
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Topic: Zip System
Posted By: DMiller
Subject: Zip System
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2022 at 5:41am
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Anyone here use the new to me home sheathing system or anything similar? Uses a green skinned sheathing and tape on the joint seams, no vapor barrier to install not sure if they even recommend adding vapor barrier. Buddy of mine in OK has a new home going up with the system, stated even without siding or brickwork the structure with windows and doors was pretty well air tight, I was shocked at the efficiency of install and closure of his frame up. |
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Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2022 at 5:58am
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My take on it is that it is very expensive at $33.45 per sheet verses $13.90 per sheet (both 7/16") for regular OSB right now from our local Home Depot's website. I know it doesn't need a vapor barrier and it stands up to weather better that standard OSB, but at more than twice the price, I would think you can install a vapor barrier and cover it with siding for around the same money. it has to have siding over it eventually.
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Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2022 at 6:06am
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New neighbour used it, regrets ever buying it and having it installed. First it's very expensive compared to 'traditional' sheathing. Their joint tape is $$$$. Second it HAS to be installed according to the instructions, even need their roller to put their $$$ tape on. If you're thinking about it, price it out and READ the PITA instructions.... from either install or energy savings ,it is NOT any better. I KNOW it's a HUGE sore spot ,regrets ever being con-vinced to using it and I NEVER bring it up. ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2022 at 6:15am
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We have used it with homeowners recommendation. Very expensive. We do use the zip tape a lot. I much prefer it to window tape. $75.00 a roll last I saw. Might be less now. I just delivered a case of it to a job this week. |
Posted By: fixer1958
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2022 at 6:16am
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I have. The stuff is awesome. Knocked our electric bill in half.
Unbelievable for no more than what it is. The tape is the same way. Expensive but there isn't a better tape made. I bought 15 sheets pre-covid for $18-$20 each 4x8 to try it out from Lowes. Got that up and got online to order some more and it said they had 80 some sheets for $1.99 each but you had to buy all of them. Ended up getting 60 or so of them. All they had. I still have 20 or so left.
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Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2022 at 6:29am
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just checked, roll of tape 6"x 90' is now $100 +13% taxes......,so over a buck a foot !! ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2022 at 6:33am
| In our climate, anything I would ever build that would ever have heat source in it would be spray-foamed, which in itself is a vapor barrier, so the allure of the zip system lessens. |
Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2022 at 6:38am
3 3/4" x 90' roll of Zip tape is $31.68 here, so quite a bit cheaper here (but still expensive!) https://www.homedepot.com/p/3-3-4-in-x-90-ft-ZIP-System-Tape-5017100/204836782" rel="nofollow - 3-3/4 in. x 90 ft. ZIP System Tape 5017100 (homedepot.com) |
jaybmiller wrote:Posted By: tadams(OH)
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2022 at 9:48am
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Is this one of them deal where it make the house so tight that you have to add air exchangers
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Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2022 at 9:55am
| Could very well be!! |
Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2022 at 10:54am
| We are doing stone work on a 9.5 million $$$$ house in Clayton right now with this stuff - and they were very stern on any miss drilled hole must be covered with ZIP TAPE- |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2022 at 6:39pm
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Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2022 at 5:18am
| Just a thought, but if the green coating is the vapor barrier, wouldn't every nail or screw that penetrates that membrane need to be taped to have a true vapor barrier? |
Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2022 at 5:29am
| Regular vapor barrier gets a plastic capped nail to retain and spread stress zone, builder on our house used that system, 6 of one half dozen other. Also as I read on, there is a sealant the builder is supposed to apply to nail heads much as the tape or apply tape. More I read on it the less I am sold on it now. More a Step and Time saver for builder at increase expense on materials, most builders base against sq footage in a flat rate unit price rather than a per hour as on a custom build where if building more units faster earn more cash. Another 'Trend' perhaps? |
Posted By: 200Tom1
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2022 at 11:39pm
| I put it on my house when I resided it. I'd do it again in a heartbeat. |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2022 at 1:43am
| I'm seeing more and more of the ZIP systems going on new homes in my area. |