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Topic: Gleaner F carb
Posted By: BigJon1_WI
Subject: Gleaner F carb
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2022 at 1:14pm
Hello again all. So, I have a bit of a conundrum on my hands. I bought a Gleaner F that was in need of a fair bit of work correcting some other idiots stupidisms. I think I'm down to the last one, which is getting the carb put back on and the throttle linkages together. The problem I'm running into is my book is completely useless since at some point they swap the 262 for a 292. I've gotten everything else set up but what I'm not quite getting is how the throttle linkages and Governor linkages are supposed to be hooked up. Any advice, or if you have a picture of that page on the manual for the 292 engine, would be extremely appreciated.



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Posted By: TramwayGuy
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2022 at 6:59pm
So it now has the Chevy engine?


Posted By: BigJon1_WI
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2022 at 7:06pm
Yes.


Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2022 at 8:21pm
Maybe you need a Carburetor and linkage off of a "K" series Gleaner. The 230 & 250 cu. in Chevy engines are in the same family as the 292.



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Posted By: BigJon1_WI
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2022 at 8:48am
Very possible.  50 years is a lot of time for people to have switched things around.  Here is a link to a video I posed on Facebook to kinda explain what I am trying to figure out.  Maybe someone with a better idea what they are looking at can see something I am missing. 

https://www.facebook.com/reel/676037220610578" rel="nofollow - https://www.facebook.com/reel/676037220610578

Dealing with this makes me wish I had an Allcrop with a corn head. 


Posted By: AC7060IL
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2022 at 9:46am
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Posted By: AC7060IL
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2022 at 10:10am
Closely inspect the carb’s throttle shaft where the governor’s rod swivels. There should be a very small 1/64”? “pin” located in the carb’s throttle shaft nearest the carb. The governor swivel is spring loaded to that pin. When governor rod pushes swivel, it rotates until it hits the pin, then moves the throttle open to power-up engine.
If swivel, pin, & throttle shaft inspect good, then concentrate on governor & governor rod. Check that governor & rod are activating as engine speed change.


Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2022 at 12:38pm
The way those work is that the cable just pulls rpm back to idle or what ever speed you want. The governor just limits high speed. Without the cable closing throttle it will run full rpm. At any part throttle position you have NO governor action meaning if you drive across field loaded to go unload and you climb a hill at anything less the full throttle,your engine will pull down some because the govenor is not in play. Just setting still with engine off, when you open throttle the gov linkage should open carb wide. You have a limiting speed governor not a variable speed governor like a tractor.


Posted By: BigJon1_WI
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2022 at 2:30pm
Well Folks,  I feel like a moron.  My assumption that the motor was a transplant was based off of the manuals that came with the machine. And when I checked the year, I used the SN written on the manuals that came with it.  Turns out, that was a mistake.  Whoever got the manuals wrote the S/N on them, but when they wrote it they forgot to include a number so the SN came back as 1970.   Someone said something on facebook that got me thinking, so I went and double checked it.  Add the missing number and it turns out Im working on a 1975 using a 1970 manual.    

So, Im going to go bang my head on a wall while calling myself and idiot for a while,  then I will go out and see if I can set that up with the excellent advice ive gotten here.  Guess its time to Ebay myself a new book or two.



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