Another EBAY rant.......
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Topic: Another EBAY rant.......
Posted By: DonDittmar
Subject: Another EBAY rant.......
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2010 at 8:40am
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Go to EBAY and type in Allis Chalmers Manuals and you will get 50 pages of stuff. You are think COOL, look at all the original manuals, but NO sir.....its someone with too much time on there hands taking the original manual and copying it to CD-ROM......Who has a computer on there tool box.........IDIOTS ------------- Experience is a fancy name for past mistakes. "Great moments are born from great opportunity" 1968 D15D,1962 D19D Also 1965 Cub Loboy and 1958 JD 720 Diesel Pony Start |
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Posted By: clovis
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2010 at 8:51am
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Don- What manual are you looking for? |
Posted By: JimD
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2010 at 9:21am
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And if you look at the feedbacks, often there are complaints of crooked pages, bad images, and just poor work. ------------- Owner of http://www.OKtractor.com" rel="nofollow - OKtractor.com PM for an instant response on parts. Open M-F 9-6 Central. We have new and used parts. 877-378-6543 |
Posted By: DonDittmar
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2010 at 9:24am
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Not looking for any one in particular...just browsing EBAY. If I did need one it would be the good old fashioned paper book, not a CD ROM. Greasy, oily hands trying to feed a CD into a computer, just not seeing it. On another rant, sure would be nice if they were actually AUCTIONS instead of Buy It Now ------------- Experience is a fancy name for past mistakes. "Great moments are born from great opportunity" 1968 D15D,1962 D19D Also 1965 Cub Loboy and 1958 JD 720 Diesel Pony Start |
Posted By: JoeO(CMO)
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2010 at 9:32am
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I always go for original manuals myself, better pictures, better paper, ink stays on the paper, stapled and/or punched correctly.
As for the pricing-- a reserve price higher than an item is worth and stating NO RESERVE ------------- |
Posted By: TomYaz
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2010 at 9:53am
I think the idea is to print a copy (probably a PDF file) off the CD-ROM. If your copy gets to greasy, just print off another...so you dont need a computer on the tool box.
Kind of nice to have if your not into the "authenticity" of a greasy torn up original.
Granted one would hope the copy would be off of a good original...
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DonDittmar wrote:Posted By: Dick L
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2010 at 10:18am
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I personally like the CD PDF file manuals. I just slip in the disk I want and then choose the needed pages and hit print. I use the backs of the printed sheets to make notes and draw sketches. When I get done I decide if I want to save them for future referance or to toss them away. (If the dog eats my home work alls I has to do is print dem again)
I do like to keep the original manuals in a drawer in my desk or on the lamp stand for Dixie to move somewhere.
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Posted By: DonDittmar
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2010 at 10:29am
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OK, I can see Tom's point...never thought of that I guess...... ------------- Experience is a fancy name for past mistakes. "Great moments are born from great opportunity" 1968 D15D,1962 D19D Also 1965 Cub Loboy and 1958 JD 720 Diesel Pony Start |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2010 at 10:32am
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I kinda like the PDF files. I have never bought any but have several in my documents file. They are handy to surf for preparation of a job or to print out and take to the garage. If the ones being sold on epay are like the Jensales reprints I have seen, they ain't worth squat. You have that problem too Dick? I wanted to fix my free broken JD gyra mower this summer and Knew I had a manual for it. I did find it after 3 or 4 days of trying to figure out where Liz put it. LOL ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: Max(ia)
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2010 at 11:06am
| Ordered a Manual for my WC once, was a reproduction. Had the numbered parts pictures, BUT no key to describe the items. |
Posted By: Justin Widlund (IA)
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2010 at 11:52am
| Where do the copyright laws come into play for this? It has always been my assumption that those boys selling copies (of any form) without permission (payment) could be violating the law. |
Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2010 at 12:03pm
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I actually have a computer in my tool box at work. GM did away with paper manuals completely and Ford charges an arm and a leg I'm told for paper manuals. I do see Don's point. Probably not many have one in the shop at home. Justin probably has a point though. Several years ago there was a guy at the Orange Spectacular show in MN selling really nice belts with any tractor brand name on them you wanted. When I asked about getting one, he said AGCO and J.D. both demanded royalties for the name/logo usage or threatened to sue him out of existance for copyright infringement. ------------- "Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian." Henry Ford |
Posted By: roughstock
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2010 at 6:25pm
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Justin, companies rarely copyrighted their manuals. I guess they never imaged the lucrative owners manual business of today. As for logos, they are trademarks and the value of these were and are extremely important. When a company is sold, their trademark is also sold. Unless allowed to expire, you have to have permission to use it. Brian |
Posted By: Rick of HopeIN
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2010 at 6:28pm
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I have CD manuals for my van and several tractor one too. Like they say, just print the pages off to the computer and save your originals to read by the fireplace. I have not been disappointed in quality of any yet.
------------- 1951 B, 1937 WC, 1957 D14, -- Thanks and God Bless |