Welding rails on blank rims
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Topic: Welding rails on blank rims
Posted By: jon p.
Subject: Welding rails on blank rims
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2010 at 8:05pm
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Hello to everyone Iwas wondering if anyone has ever had experience with removing the rails off your old spinout rims and welded them on new blanks ? any comments or experience welcomed.
thank you ,
Jon
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Posted By: norm [ind]
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2010 at 8:09pm
| you will be smarter when done better buy the correct one my 2 cents |
Posted By: jon p.
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2010 at 8:11pm
| any advice on the "correct one" for a d-15 seriesII 26" rim thanks jon |
Posted By: norm [ind]
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2010 at 8:15pm
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can be deliverd to your door need zip code first for shipping from factory
1-800-254-3116 for pricing
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Posted By: jon p.
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2010 at 9:01pm
| 35650 |
Posted By: Amos
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2010 at 9:19pm
| I did it on my D15. Not very hard. I had to unsiezed the eccentrics on both sides so just set the rails up with both centers on one rim blank and welded them. Did the same for the other rim as well. When they cooled off I painted them and installed the tires and put them on the tractor. Not that hard just need to get each one straight with the next one, so to speak. |
Posted By: redline
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2010 at 9:39pm
------------- If it weren't for the last minute, I wouldn't get anything done! |
Amos wrote:Posted By: jon p.
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2010 at 9:49pm
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That is a great idea amos i appreciate that insight . Sometimes we just over look the simplest of things ...Great idea
thank you
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Posted By: Brian G. NY
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2010 at 9:54pm
| I bought a 12 X 28 non spin-out wheel from Central Tractor for $90 when they went out of business. I will eventually attempt to weld in the rails. I have lots of rusted out wheels, some of which have nearly perfect rails. I expect cutting out the old rails may be as big a problem as welding them into the new wheel. LOL |
Posted By: JoeO(CMO)
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2010 at 6:09am
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maybe we could get China to send the rails back over here ------------- |
Posted By: Roddo
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2010 at 6:39am
| If you rent a plasma cutter to remove the rails it would probably work well. I rented one to cut frame rails off a truck body at work and it was like a weld eraser. Just clipped the welds right out and the rails dropped away with very little damage to anything else. |
Posted By: David Grubb
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2010 at 1:04pm
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My cousin replaced the wheel rim for his WD by cutting off the old rails and welding them onto a new rim. You have to cut the rim out around the rail-to-rim stand off bracket and then trim the bracket to the correct height with a grinder. If you cut the bracket from the surface of the rim you will end up with brackets that are too short and the rail will not be easy to reweld into the rim. He used the wheel center and eccentrics to center the all the rails at the same time by laying the rim on a welding table and tacking the lower brackets and then raising the wheel center and raising the upper brackets. Sounds hard but is really easy. ------------- Dave |
Posted By: JimD
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2010 at 2:00pm
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We have the rims for $245 + frt. They aren't too pricey to ship. Just replaced one on my D15 II. Personally, I wouldn't try, and I'm exceptionally cheap. But to each his own. It can be done, but you need to get the spacing right in more than just 2 directions and points. Done wrong, and the wheel will forever have slop and may not tighten properly, or slide to adjust.
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Posted By: skipwelte
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2010 at 3:07pm
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Ive done it on a WD45. Cutting and trimming the old rail off was time consuming as they were spot welded on from the bottom. I used two wheel center with eccentrics to postion the new rails, took some time to get it all spaced correctly. The welding was the easy part, it worked good after the repair. It does take a lot of time, I had probably 6 hours hard labor in it. HTH |
Posted By: Roger Nolin
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2010 at 9:18pm
| local tire shop cuts half of the old rim off. then cuts a new rim in half and welds 1 half back on. Then cuts the rest of the old rim off and welds the other half of the new rim on. You wind up with a new rim that has a weld all the way around the inside of the rim. Says that is the only way it can be done. He has done quite a few of them. I looked at one and was not impressed. < id="gwProxy" ="">< ="jsCall;" id="jsProxy" =""> |
Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2010 at 11:58pm
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The rim shop at Radcliffe IA stocks rims and puts in centers as needed. Doesn't cut the rims as far as I can tell, just welds the centers in as needed. Probably starts with short welds half a dozen places around the wheel center to keep it centered and I'm sure they have jigs to keep the wheel center where it needs to be for the desired offset. The I expect they run a full bead all the way around. I don't know what they might have for spin out rims. Gerald J. |