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Topic: 2 bottom roll over plow
Posted By: AC720Man
Subject: 2 bottom roll over plow
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2022 at 3:07pm
Any suggestions on where to get plow parts for it? Mainly the shares. Needs a lot of work, came with my D17. Will get some pictures next week.

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD



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Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2022 at 5:58pm
Are they "Bullet-Blade" or blacksmith (fitted) type shares? What bottom series do you have? 
  I have some select parts left for the #124 bottoms on my plows and fewer for the #325.
  Without knowing what bottoms you have it's impossible to know what parts you need. 
 Years ago I wholesaled most all of my plow parts to Dennis in southern IL.


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If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere.
If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY


Posted By: dr p
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2022 at 7:56pm
I got an extra owners manual I'd you need one


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2022 at 8:14pm
A manual would be great and I have no idea what model I have. I need to pick it up next week as I have left it for 2 months at the previous owners place after I picked up the D17. Kinda forgot about it until recently. It’s not in the best shape and I guess that’s why I wasn’t so anxious to get it.

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: dr p
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2022 at 6:00am
Mine is a 53


Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2022 at 6:08am
The early model 50 rollover plows are a model 54; series 50, 4 bottoms. A 53 is a 50 series 3 bottom, a 52 is a 50 series 2 bottom, ect. There is a thread in the knowledge section describing how to identify plows. 

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If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere.
If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2022 at 7:56am
Thanks for the good info.

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: tadams(OH)
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2022 at 2:18pm
 I have a 2 bottom roll over plow in Ohio if anyone is interested in buying please PM me.


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2022 at 4:02pm


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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2022 at 4:03pm


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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2022 at 4:15pm
I think everything can be freed up with some hard work. Not sure what I am going to do at this point. Either the scrapyard or maybe just a conversation piece. It was free so I really have nothing in it at this point. Early model so I’m sure plow parts are none existent.

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: ac45dave
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2022 at 4:23pm
Get with Dave the plow man.He may have what ya need.   http://www.davetheplowman.com/home.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.davetheplowman.com/home.html

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Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2022 at 4:45pm
Thanks Dave, I will get in touch with him.
Robbie

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2022 at 5:18pm
Appears to be a series 54

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2022 at 7:47pm
Yes: You have a #54 rollover plow. Just a guess at this point, you have #124 bottoms as That was a popular bottom series for eastern clay. Are the shin and moldboard cast pieces? As it has a separate shin, it can't be a #325. Remove a part and find a part number and the bottom series can be verified.

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If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere.
If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2022 at 9:22pm
When I get some spare time I will do that.

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: dr p
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2022 at 6:07am
You are not scrapping that!


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2022 at 6:59am
Do you have suggestions DR P?

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2022 at 8:15am
Originally posted by dr p dr p wrote:

You are not scrapping that!

X-2!!! That thing would be a gold mine at auction here in Iowa. This is why I don't have one. Always bring way more than I can justify for another plow.


Posted By: plummerscarin
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2022 at 12:20pm
Mike, you’re showing your hand. Looks like you need to work a deal


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2022 at 4:07pm
I will gladly trade for some of that gold!

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2022 at 4:08pm


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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2022 at 4:10pm
Do you guys think this is 315499 or 488?

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2022 at 6:51pm
315498 shows up in the parts book as a short (9") landslide plate for a #124 bottom.
Looks like my guess was correct. The #124 bottom is popular here in the east so you may be able to find other plows for the parts. The B&C plows used that bottom a lot around here. The LH parts are going to be the hard ones to find. I had to get 4 different B&C plows for the bottom parts to get cast moldboards on my #54 CA Rollover plow for my 



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If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere.
If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY


Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2022 at 7:15am
Originally posted by plummerscarin plummerscarin wrote:

Mike, you’re showing your hand. Looks like you need to work a deal
if I lived closer I'd go have a look for sure. Like Paul mentioned, those left hand wear parts are going to be an issue.

Friend of mine local to the area has a really nice 45 diesel with 54 that he plows with. It was up at Hutch, probably a picture in Lynn's pics somewhere.


Posted By: dr p
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2022 at 7:48pm
There is a guy in Canada, ed Barrington (sp?) He has tons of obsolete plow parts. There is also a guy for bought the die works from balsters. Can't remember his name but it is some variation of " plow"


Posted By: dr p
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2022 at 8:04pm
Ploworx


Posted By: plummerscarin
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2022 at 7:08am
Originally posted by IBWD MIke IBWD MIke wrote:

Originally posted by plummerscarin plummerscarin wrote:

Mike, you’re showing your hand. Looks like you need to work a deal
if I lived closer I'd go have a look for sure. Like Paul mentioned, those left hand wear parts are going to be an issue.

Friend of mine local to the area has a really nice 45 diesel with 54 that he plows with. It was up at Hutch, probably a picture in Lynn's pics somewhere.


This one?


Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2022 at 7:17am
That's the one! There is a pic of it in Lynn's 'First set', sixth from the bottom. I believe the LP D-19 in that set is his also. NF 180 is Luke R's.


Posted By: plummerscarin
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2022 at 8:55am
He had it on the dyno also but I didn't hear the number


Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2022 at 9:06am
55 is the number I heard, not positive that's right. He's told me in the past that the number varies with the year. Mike's a great guy, not sure why he's not on here, has lots of other Orange stuff.


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2022 at 9:03pm
Well, Ive got a decision to make. This roll over plow I admit intrigues me. Don’t see any in our area. It would only be used for gardens, plow days if one is close by, and display/conversation piece at local events. The shares are badly worn but usable. Probably wouldn’t cut the soil the best but they should be replaced IMO to have any chance at a quality performance. All 4 shins are broken. I can acquire 2 new left side shares but they are freakin expensive, $135 each. Short landslide is cheap at $20. Will find out tomorrow about right hand shares availability but don't see that as an issue. My question is, what’s a 2 bottom roll over plow worth in working condition and new shares? Trying to justify the cost.

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2022 at 8:29am
What's it worth? Boy, isn't that the 64 dollar question. So many variables. Location is a huge one, condition of the plow, who's looking to own one. Location lets me out.

I don't know what it's 'worth', just know that the ones I've seen sell at auction around here have went HIGH!


Posted By: exSW
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2022 at 7:57pm
Watched one sell for over four hundred Saturday. If I hadn't got a 60 series 2x16 SC bought earlier in the sale it would have gone higher.

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Learning AC...slowly


Posted By: dr p
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2022 at 8:31pm
I paid 600 for mine


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2022 at 9:27pm
It’s going to take a lot of time to disassemble to clean up the parts to get it in working condition. No doubt it has been used a lot and probably set outside its entire life. If was a newer one the parts are less expensive and easier to obtain. My friend has the newer bullet shares, left and right but they will not work with the moldboards or frog that’s on it. I’m new to plow parts, my series 70 was in good shape when I got it. Dad’s Oliver as well. Not often we plow anymore other than gardens and an occasional field. Got a feeling I may tinker with it to make sure I can get it rotate freely and make sure it is salvageable.

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2022 at 2:01pm
One at auction here in Iowa right now. Putney auction service.
https://putneyauctionservice.hibid.com/catalog/388127/putney-auction-online-8-13-2022/?cpage=27" rel="nofollow - https://putneyauctionservice.hibid.com/catalog/388127/putney-auction-online-8-13-2022/?cpage=27



Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2022 at 8:46pm
Wow that is in really nice condition. Will be interesting to see what it brings. Remind me not to post pictures of mine anymore lol...

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2022 at 6:57am
Plow sold for $425. I had intended to watch the closing of the auction but spaced it off. That was a good looking plow for the money, more than I would have paid but if a guy wanted one......


Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2022 at 8:12am
Robbie what are the part numbers of plow parts your looking for.


Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2022 at 5:30pm
If anybody is interested, there's (or was) a 2 bottom 50 series, possibly 124 bottoms rollover plow listed on cl, for $295, in Aquasco, MD. Don't know if it has sold since posting.  Don't try to jew him down any, the plow looks pretty good, from what I see...Wink

https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mld/grq/d/aquasco-allis-chalmers-hillside-plow/7517831171.html" rel="nofollow - https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mld/grq/d/aquasco-allis-chalmers-hillside-plow/7517831171.html


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Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2022 at 9:33pm
Missing a colter but would be cheaper than buying parts for mine.

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2022 at 9:41pm
Mike, from what I can tell 315498 which is a shin. I was given another part number for a shin 327301. The first number is directly off the back of the shin.

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2022 at 6:17am
if you're missing the coulter mounts, I have new ones.



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If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere.
If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY


Posted By: dr p
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2022 at 5:01pm
That isn't funny Dave



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