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The Blue side has claimed my brother

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Topic: The Blue side has claimed my brother
Posted By: Charlie175
Subject: The Blue side has claimed my brother
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2022 at 1:34pm
Rob using a Ford 8600 to rake hay. 

https://youtu.be/-b9Z8Ez8mJs" rel="nofollow - https://youtu.be/-b9Z8Ez8mJs




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Charlie

'48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD



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Posted By: Ky.Allis
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2022 at 1:40pm
That sure is a SHARP looking Ford. I always liked the looks of them.


Posted By: HudCo
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2022 at 8:50pm
me too


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2022 at 9:34pm
Charlie surprised me by showing up at my retirement job! As you can see its not a job, just having fun helping my best bud. He square bales around 25K per year and round bales around 5K round bales. Use a Bale Barron and 2 NH square balers for the squares. NH 210 discbine to mow. I will always bleed orange but these Ford 8600’s are pretty good tractors. He flipped the front end around to give them short wheelbase. They are heavy and well built. He has 3-8600’s, a TW10, 5610, 4000SU and several others. A Massey. 4WD with loader and he still has his first tractor, a AC 175 diesel with a 500 loader that he started his hay business with 30 years ago. I will be using it tomorrow to load round bales at a remote farm. I bought his AC 160 last year when it blew a head gasket and did a full engine rebuild. The Krone rotary rake I’m running is a amazing tool. Ive never seen a rake clean the field as well as it does. What the video doesn’t show is me wearing my AC shirt!!!

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: DanWi
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2022 at 10:06pm
Should be able to cruise right along with a setup like that.


Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2022 at 1:34am
at least it isn't weed green


Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2022 at 5:50am
Nice video! There is something very calming about watching a video like that. Thanks for posting.

Raking has come a long way since the old "side delivery" rake I first raked with in the mid 60's.


Posted By: AC7060IL
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2022 at 6:30am
Originally posted by Ky.Allis Ky.Allis wrote:

That sure is a SHARP looking Ford. I always liked the looks of them.
Agreed. That Krone hay rake doesn't mess around. Thanks for sharing the video.


Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2022 at 7:08am
That's a LOT of hay to make, whew!!


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2022 at 7:17am


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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2022 at 7:22am
We rolled 290 bales Monday another 100 Tuesday. Running the brand new NH 210 discbine is my favorite job and then raking. Farming full time either at our farm or for Gary has been my goal for a long time. 34 years at Verizon was a good job but not as satisfying as farming.

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2022 at 7:29am

My buddy Gary loading his wagon while I wait to load mine. Normally we would be using the road tractor but it’s at a farm 25 miles away hauling the 390 bales home. Using the 4WD Massey to load there.

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2022 at 7:45am
How many balers were running to do 290 in a day?


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2022 at 9:10am
Just 1 NH round baler. No few Monday so Gary was able to start around 9 sm as I had been raking for 2 hays to stay ahead of him. We run 2 NH BC5070 Hayliner square balers at the same time when doing square bales. All balers have have Silo King additive machines on them. While we round baled yesterday the other crew square baled 900 bales of wheat straw. I finished transporting round bales this morning and am baling straw as I write this. When our local Allis dealership switched to Ford after AC went out of business that’s when Gary switched to Ford so he would have local dealership support which is only 2 miles away.

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2022 at 9:27am
Both square balers and discbine are brand new as of a month ago. A 3 year old discbine is in the shop being repaired. Mowing usually requires 2 men doing 8-10 hr shifts to knock down as much when we can when a good forecast is predicted. The Bale Baron can stack a lot of hay so you want to have plenty down to feed it. Record day was 3415 bales in one day.

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2022 at 10:47am
Thanks for reminding how much my round balers SUCK.  LOL!!!  It takes me.....I don't even know....

Good forecast.....ACCURATE forecast would be extremely beneficial.

And no dew?  My my what a luxury!!!  

I've really grown to just about hate making hay.  I mean.....I like making hay, when I can make hay.  But junk equipment, fighting the weather, fighting the dew (which yeah is part of the weather), just gets frustrating.  It's complicated!LOL

Good luck and have fun.  


Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2022 at 11:45am
Here is his TW-10 round baling
You have to make your own tractor noises... :)

https://youtu.be/4pB0cejswHg" rel="nofollow - https://youtu.be/4pB0cejswHg

https://youtu.be/c6Nc_ggIVks" rel="nofollow - https://youtu.be/c6Nc_ggIVks



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Charlie

'48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD


Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2022 at 11:58am
Nice.  We looked at a TW 25 and TW 30, and.....8670 (?)  before we ended up with our 7045.

Our mower and balers all sucked.  Addressed the mower situation this year with a new disc mower conditioner.  Good lord willing and the creek don't rise, plan on getting a baler next year.  I just CAN'T fart around as bad as it is much longer.  

How wide of a cut area is raked together there?  Looks like at least 20-25 feet?  


Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2022 at 7:15pm
We had a "few" guys running the '00 series Fords back in the '70's/'80's, pretty good looking tractors  to me Tongue


Posted By: Lars(wi)
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2022 at 7:33pm
If I’m not mistaken, did JI Case manufacture a few models for Ford?

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Where We Go One We Go All


Posted By: AllisFreak MN
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2022 at 9:51pm
Originally posted by WF owner WF owner wrote:

Nice video! There is something very calming about watching a video like that. Thanks for posting.

Raking has come a long way since the old "side delivery" rake I first raked with in the mid 60's.
Side deliveries still get used around here.

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'49 A-C WD, '51 A-C WD, '63 A-C D17 Series III, 1968 A-C One-Seventy, '82 A-C 6060, '75 A-C 7040, A-C #3 sickle mower, 2 A-C 701 wagons, '78 Gleaner M2


Posted By: Kiwi
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2022 at 3:06am
Hi all i have a few blue ones that have sneaked into the toy box  sooner be blue than green JD's are painted green and yellow so when they break down you can park them in the gorse fence and no one can see them ha ha

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Tractors Allis EB,two C,diesel G


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2022 at 8:26am
He used to use tandem roller bar rake's for years. The rotary rake is much better because it does not wind the hay up. In other words as your baling if you stop the baler just takes in the hay that is right at the pickup we’re as a windrow from a roller bar tends to keep pulling it in 5 ft away which can jam the baler. The rotary produces a nice fluffy windrow which produce consistent bales. As far as production output on the round baler it averages a 4x5 bale every 45 seconds using net wrap and a minute 15 seconds with string. Windrows are doubled up.

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: Lars(wi)
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2022 at 9:57am
Growing up, there was a Ford tractor dealership in Verona Wi, (Town&Country Ford?) about 15 miles away. Always had a few Fords on the lot, not hardly any Fords tractors nor implements on any farms in our area. Dealership was also a NH, and Heston implement dealer. We only went there when needing parts for a Ford skid loader. Very lackluster sales Dept., was there over 20 years, wondering how they lasted that long.

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Where We Go One We Go All


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2022 at 9:34pm
The Ford/ NH dealer locally is now gone. Kenny retired at the age of 80 and his son took over and got rid of the Ag portion of the dealership. They are strictly a Simplicity/Ferris lawn and garden dealership. He sells more Ferris mowers than any dealership in Va. A shame locals don’t have a local dealership anymore.
Begin to cut 2nd cutting next week. No sooner to get 1st cutting done it’s time to start all over again.

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2022 at 6:37am
I'm still on 45 seconds per baleCryCryOuch



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