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Topic: Plow then disk tire got tire ruts

Posted By: BrianC
Subject: Plow then disk tire got tire ruts
Date Posted: 28 May 2022 at 11:27am

On 5/25 I plowed the garden (Ford 3000 and 2x12 Ferguson plow).

Then same day disked it to level. Ford 3000 + 6ft 3pt disk with I-beam dragging behind for leveling. Some years I use the Allis 160.

I left tire ruts. So the disk didn't touch down at the now depressed/compressed tire (13.6-28) ruts. Disc is wide enough to cover the tires.

Sandy-loam, too damp.

The plowing looked pretty good, with the rye cover crop turned down very well.

There was no ballast on the tractor, so about 3900 pound tractor? Wheels are set at 54" center spacing, required for this little plow.

Any way to avoid the depressed ruts?

Sweet corn at 36" rows. Batches of 4 rows. Cultivated with Allis C. Hand sprayed for ear worm. Just hobby, I give most of it away. Price of seed and fertilizer is way up, insecticide also. My time and fuel are the only other costs involved. Time on the tractors is entertainment to me. Garden plot therapy.

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Posted By: Steve A
Date Posted: 30 May 2022 at 9:08pm

I might be reading the situation wrong, but it sounds like I'd try waiting until the ground is more dry, or add weight to the disk to get more depth. Or both.
Can you re-adjust hitch to get more depth, or is the disk riding on the axles already? I'm guessing you are running out of time to get it planted due to a wet spell.

Posted By: JW in MO
Date Posted: 31 May 2022 at 6:45pm

Can you adjust the pitch of the gangs on your disk, the greater the angle the more coverage you get.

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Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 31 May 2022 at 8:25pm

when I was doing the wife's 1/2 ac of veggies...

I'd ...

run subsoiler, then wait 2-3 days

plow, then wait 2-3 days

disc, then wait 2-3 days

rototill, then she'd plant next day

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Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 04 Jun 2022 at 12:57am

agree with Steve...wait a few days before disking, and ad some weight to the disk, might be going to slow with the disk too. also try to disk with the direction of the plow, then go crossways, is your 3-pt all the way down? do you have depth control on the 3-pt? next year try just disking it in several different directions, only need to plow every 2-3 years. if your disk blades are of the right size and not worn way down it should chop up any vegetation real good. when you til the soil when it's wet, you'll get hard clods to work with all year.

Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 04 Jun 2022 at 6:05am

Just saw 10 acres of soybeans get planted, they used disc with some kind of neat 'rolling basket' couple hours before.Field sure was pretty,should a few ROCKS so I tippytoed out to get them,toss into the bush.

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Posted By: BrianC
Date Posted: 04 Jun 2022 at 8:47am

Thank for responses.

Yes it was too wet. But I was waiting and waiting.

Since I plowed and planted we got 3 more rains.

I think the water table is just 2ft down.

I sort of just laugh it off, glad I don't have to make a living at this,

at this spot. I do the same thing at my brothers place, high and dry, no problems.

Well maybe a little with trying to get perfect seedbed leveling.

The disk is set moderate on the gang angle.

The gang axles/spool/spaces were not down in the dirt.

I just removed the 3p arms from pins of disc on level ground, they were able to drop 11 more inches, so the hitch was not holding up the disk.

But I sure was surprised at how deep the tires sank in.

In past years I was able to plow earlier and waited before disk harrow.

This was better.

I use a hand push planter, I don't think it could work in stubble, need a fluffy seedbed.

But this restriction may be big part of my trouble.

I don't own a roto-tiller.

More information, back at harvest time, each batch of corn is picked then gets bush hogged. After all the corn is picked, I lime and broadcast rye (cereal rye) and then disk.

I guess this could morph into a how to plant sweet corn in wet land discussion.

It does always dry out eventually.

Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 04 Jun 2022 at 7:29pm

if you want really fluffy dirt next year, plow it this fall and let the freezing break up the dirt over winter then disk next spring