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AC130 deck belt

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Topic: AC130 deck belt
Posted By: jaybmiller
Subject: AC130 deck belt
Date Posted: 20 May 2022 at 6:52am
OK, my loaner's deck belt got FRIED, when neighbour decided to 'brush cut' NOT 'trim' her 12" tall ,kind damp grass.
According to the AC130 parts book, there's FOUR different belts ! and 2 different widths of 'pulleys' (though no part nums for pulleys.or picture....)
It's a 42" deck, 23hp machine.
belts are either 91.xx or 94.xx inches but no 'chart' of the combos...
kinda hard to believe the same setup can use belts that are 3 inches different.

curious like my cats....

jay


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3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)

Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water



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Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 20 May 2022 at 9:53pm
I will ask my son tomorrow as he has the tractor with the 42” cut. If I may offer some advice, he has had a issue with broken belts lately so he dropped it off at the dealer to have them look at it. $400 later, a new idler pulley, idler pulley arm, and belt. Also ground down the top of the bushing that the arm rides on as they were poorly manufactured and allow too much play in the arm resulting in broken belts as the idler arm moves up and down too much as the mower belt is in operation. Also advised not to run it in any notch below the 5th from the bottom as the deck goes too low to maintain proper alignment. His only has 104 hours on it

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 21 May 2022 at 6:02am
Thanks ! I bought 3 , 92,93,94" belts Put the A92K belt on ( 4L94.0" )
Cut 1/8th ac of 12" grass down to #6 on the deck lever.Only problem was no rope on the discharge lever and the kinda wet ,long grass kept plugging up....
Seems like were 'good to go'.
I wondered about the  'not less than 5', TERRIBLE angles !!!!
I'll inform the 'cutter' to keep at 5 from now on. She's a city girl who loves to cut grass for her 99 year old father-in-law.

Still 'miffed' about docs saying 4 different belts and NO info as to which it's supposed to be.....


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3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)

Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 21 May 2022 at 7:45am
Jay the Simplicity part number for the belt is 1732955SM. They charged him $49 bucks for it. It doesn’t say the length. It definitely has a deeper V in it than the belt from TSC.

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 21 May 2022 at 7:49am
The book for these mowers are horrible. Very little info online as well. It’s a decent mower, just avoid hitting objects like tree roots with it! I think that’s what my daughter in law did! She said she grazed it but these decks are not built very heavy so apparently the shock bent the idler pulleys also.

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: Kurzy
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2022 at 11:45am
  Howdy AC720Man,
  I still have same belts and blades on my AC130 All Wheel Steer.  But need to replace all. Do you have part numbers for Blades and the Secondary mower drive belt also ?

Thanks Kurzy


Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2022 at 1:02pm
Depends on the deck size, the belt and diagram is different



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Charlie

'48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD


Posted By: Kurzy
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2022 at 5:40pm

  Thanks Charlie,
  Found a simplicity dealer in Billings. Give my lawn tractor numbers and all 3 belts and 3 blades coming. Not cheap!  But when they come I will get chance to measure up and maybe look at after market for next time.

Thanks Kurzy


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2022 at 7:34pm
Just saw the post and I couldn’t give you the info. Like Charlie said, different deck sizes. 3 blades or 2, so they take different sizes. A suggestion is to stay with the Simplicity brand belts. He has tried different brands and they don’t last. The pulley takes a certain width and deep V to keep it in line with the idler pulley or when it jumps off it breaks the belt, bends the pulley and the arm.

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: Kurzy
Date Posted: 17 Jul 2022 at 3:05pm
   Howdy,
   Jumped on my AC 130 to cut grass today. No forward or reverse! All levers move  but something must of happened in the trans. Fix or dump it?

  Kurzy


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 17 Jul 2022 at 3:51pm
Ours is at the farm but isn’t there a lever at the rear that puts it in free wheeling? Maybe it got bumped into free wheel position

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2022 at 6:46am
Lower right side on the back is the transmission disconnect. It will not move if disconnected.
 


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Charlie

'48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2022 at 7:04am


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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2022 at 7:04am


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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: Kurzy
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2022 at 12:43pm
  Howdy,
  My lever for transmission is located under seat. I used it several times to push mower around to move . But thats not the problem. I think its inside the transmission!

Thanks Kurzy


Posted By: Kurzy
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2022 at 2:57pm

   Howdy,
   I think its the motion drive belt. Still original belt! Looks like  a devil to get new belt on!

   Kurzy


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2022 at 5:53pm
Well that’s good news, would be a shame to junk a good mower. They are definitely a lighter built mower than their predecessors. Almost to the point of wishing they didn’t have the Allis name on them. Dad’s is a 2013 I think, and my sons 2 years later. Light duty mowers for sure but they do mow well as long as they are not abused.

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2022 at 5:54pm
Haven’t had to replace that one yet.

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: Kurzy
Date Posted: 19 Jul 2022 at 6:19am
 

    Howdy,
    My manual says motion belt should last LIFE of machine!! That dont say much for this lawn mower. My only bitch with mower is its uneven cutting. You can see all blades pattern. Looks like its going to be a really job to get this belt on, deck off and no room to work. Thanks for the info. Hope this is the problem.

  Kurzy


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 19 Jul 2022 at 8:47am
Is the belt broken or stretched? If its not broken is there adjustments to tighten it? Will have to look at ours when I get a chance to see what’s involved.
As far as uneven cutting, ours mows even. Are the blades all the way up on the spindle? Trying to remember if they have the washers that are spline? If they are not lined up correctly on the spindle it would cause uneven cutting.

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: Kurzy
Date Posted: 19 Jul 2022 at 6:09pm

   Howdy,
    Yep all washers on, tire pressure same. might be because always cutting on a slope.   Deck leans down, so uneven cut. will keep trying to get even. Found problem with  movement. Deck off, way up is two steel plates that rub together when going from forward to reverse. They get petty tight and do not let the tension back all the way so belt gets loose. If you wash your mower down now and then , rust gets in there and holds up the plates from moving freely. A good dos of WD45 and all is well!!!! Now believe me to replace the motion belt is a days job! I will do it this winter. But for now mower goes forward and reverse. Simple fix but took 2 hours find!

Kurzy


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 19 Jul 2022 at 6:19pm
Great news Kurzy!! I will keep that in mind. Surprised me they would say it would last the life of the machine but then again my 917 is 40 years old and I have never replaced the hydro belt.

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: LionelinKY
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2022 at 4:26am
I bought 1 of these AC130 riding mowers in 2018. Mine is a 2011 model 23hp 42"cut which had just over 200 hours on it's hour meter when I bought it but still looked like new at 7 years old. It now has almost 300 hours on it. It cut uneven when I first got it which was due to 1 blade being bent down on one end. A pair of new blades, fuel pump, and battery is all that I have done to it so far. Oil even looks new still after 3 full mowing seasons so far. Haven't even looked at the belts. I really like the way that it runs and mows though it will never compare to my old B110.

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"My name is Lionel and I'm an Allisoholic"



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