Print Page | Close Window

it's gonna gits dirty!

Printed From: Unofficial Allis
Category: Other Topics
Forum Name: Shops, Barns, Varmints, and Trucks
Forum Description: anything you want to talk about except politics
URL: https://www.allischalmers.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=187772
Printed Date: 25 Sep 2024 at 7:52am
Software Version: Web Wiz Forums 11.10 - http://www.webwizforums.com


Topic: it's gonna gits dirty!
Posted By: shameless dude
Subject: it's gonna gits dirty!
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2022 at 8:07pm
the stockholders tell me i hafta pull all my equipment off the farm along with tools/parts/vehicles/treasurers/everything! i don't have anywhere to take it. they also want to take my driveway/back yard/buildings/pens/trees out to make a way to let the big green farmers to get to the field behind me...i guess pulling off the road to a wide open space isn't good enough for them! i've told them i want to buy 12 acres where i am, they don't want to sell it to me! i have several buildings that are mine, guess i could put them on the auction along with several pieces of equipment. if anyone is looking for something, i have alot of stuff for sale! i haven't slept for days...i may need bail money...



Replies:
Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2022 at 8:21pm
If me is time to contact Attorney and sue for adverse possession if not repayments for any upgrades you have done.
Time to strike the match on the backfire.
Seek a court hearing as to demands and counter offers while for now attach a cease and desist restraining order.


Posted By: Stan IL&TN
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2022 at 9:49pm
I guarantee they have a lawyer already so you better get one too. I would not even talk to them SOBs without going through your lawyer.

-------------
1957 WD45 dad's first AC

1968 one-seventy

1956 F40 Ferguson


Posted By: Michael V (NM)
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2022 at 10:17pm
Lawer up! NOW!
And what Dmiller said


Posted By: Lars(wi)
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2022 at 10:35pm
Dale, GET A COPY OF THE WILL!!!

-------------
I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science.


Posted By: Dirt Farmer
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2022 at 1:23am
Don't give up or give in Shameless, dig in your heels, sounds like you have been established there for some time and they are being pushy. Time to lawyer up. Get everything in writing and save any electronic correspondences. Good luck buddy, get some sleep, don't let this get your health down. We'll be praying for ya.


Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2022 at 5:57am
Yes, first thing is a LAWYER!  You are no longer talking to your siblings, but a bunch of money grubbing AHs. 
DO NOT talk to, text, phone or ANYTHING until you have talked to a lawyer.  It sounds harsh, but someone has to look after you and look out for your interest.  We're here for ya buddy (even after the snow you gave us a couple of days ago).  Keep your chin up and your temper under control.  Don't talk to them.  If you HAVE to, count to 10 first and then quietly answer with a minimum of words.  Don't let them get you mad.  We ALL say stupid things when we are and you can't afford to be.  STAY CALM.
Get some sleep and keep us up to date.


-------------
"Allis-Express"
19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17


Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2022 at 6:34am
YES, GET YOURSELF LAWYER NOW !!!
If for no other reason than to get delays in the works. Lawyers have a way of slowing things to a glacial pace and that will buy you time to work out a plan. 


-------------
If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere.
Real pullers don't have speed limits.
If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY


Posted By: farmboy520
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2022 at 7:03am
I know everyone is telling you this but it's the truth, get a lawyer. First order of business is to get a copy of the will and/or trust papers. Do Not Talk to them. If they call/text/email or whatever, tell them to talk to your lawyer. You can do this, but you'll need sleep. They will win if you don't take care of yourself. We are all here for you.

-------------
On the farm: Agco Allis 9695, 7060, 7010, R66, Farmall H, and Farmall F20 (Great Grandpa's)


Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2022 at 7:10am
I'm a broken record here...
 1) get a lawyer.....
2) get the will...
3) the very last thing I'd say to 'them'... 'see you in court,talk to my lawyer'
4) take pictures of EVERYTHING you have there NOW.Buildings, tools, machines(cept 'the machine".....)

then carry on, as per normal life

Do NOT talk to them  ! Yes, that's be hard BUT it's the way it HAS to be.

Buckling under to 'them' /'family' WILL eat away at you fast and furious. I caved in last year, lost a lot of $$ and 'stuff', more has to go probably when weather gets better.

Without this forum to vent to,.... well at least I'm still here.

Jay


-------------
3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)

Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water


Posted By: AC7060IL
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2022 at 7:52am
How does your wife feel about it?


Posted By: nella(Pa)
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2022 at 8:12am
This is the way 80-90% of farms go in my area, the one that keeps the farm going for free gets the big screwing.


Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2022 at 11:05am
I will pray for your health, mental as well as fascial health, and that you find a lawyer that will not lead you on to just get more of your money.  As much as I hate the blood suckers you need one to ask for the will if nothing else.


Posted By: JoeM(GA)
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2022 at 2:30pm
I feel for ya Dale, as everyone is saying, you MUST have a lawyer for this kinda fight, I wouldn't speak to them at all except through the lawyer, and be careful what you post here or anywhere else, that could come back to bite you!


-------------
Allis Express North Georgia
41 WC,48 UC Cane,7-G's,
Ford 345C TLB


Posted By: FloydKS
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2022 at 3:28pm
just to let you know,,, i am keeping you in my prayers.


-------------
Holding a grudge is like taking poison and expecting the other person to die


Posted By: JohnColo
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2022 at 4:17pm
Well Dale, I don't have any other advice to give you other then what you have already gotten.  I would also stress that you don't say anything or post anything concerning the farm to anyone but your lawyer.
I truly can't understand how family can be so cruel to another family member but I know it happens all the time.  You've got my phone number so don't hesitate to call if it will help.
Take care, my friend and try to get some sleep.  Maybe hook up the trailer and head for a lake!


Posted By: JC-WI
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2022 at 10:04pm
I keep wondering what the 'll is wrong with them....
 Are they just stupid greedy crazy?
 Or are they eyeball deep in debt after all the years of living the snob life styles...
 Or do they, or one of them have a huge gambling debt to pay off... or have they simply been sleeping with the dim-crap losers way to long?
or worse, invested in the stock market and lost it all there and figure they are going to recoup it all from one certain shameless and then invest in the stocks even more and end up as paupers.
  Shameless, GET A DAM GOOD SHARP RUTHLESS lawyer to go after the vipers that are trying to get you.  One that leaves no stone unturned.


-------------
He who says there is no evil has already deceived himself
The truth is the truth, sugar coated or not. Trawler II says, "Remember that."


Posted By: KJCHRIS
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2022 at 12:44am
Find the dirtiest nastiest lawyer in the area, you know the guy that defends the drug dealers n thieves. Let the lawyer go find the will. IF it costs you a thousand dollars, it may be cheap in long run. You've played by their rules long enough. 
 I'd not have any conversations with your siblings until you've talked to a lawyer. Get them to reply on either computer or by texting. And save all of them. 
 Good luck and try to maintain control of what you say and do around them. 


-------------
AC 200, CAH, AC185D bareback, AC 180D bareback, D17 III, WF. D17 Blackbar grill, NF. D15 SFW. Case 1175 CAH, Bobcat 543B,


Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2022 at 2:25am
well....i spent all day today looking for the will! the court house don't have it, so i spent the rest of the day checking with all the lawyers in our community. either they didn't have it, or they wouldn't gimme a copy! spent yesterday contacting lawyers in the big city since i think all the lawyers in our town sleep together! i do know they compare notes on lots of things that should be lawyer/client quiet! the realtor is coming tomarrow to map out an easement thru my back yard! guess he'll get the first hint of my mood! thanks to all you folks praying and thinking of me! 


Posted By: klinemar
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2022 at 5:52am
Hang in there Shameless! Sounds like your in for a fight!


Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2022 at 6:46am
Don't know what it'll cost ( up here $100), but put a lien on the property for say $100K for 'repairs to property and equipment'.
Once issued, it cannot be sold UNTIL the lien is paid off.

That's how it works up here...huge 'scam' easy to do online....

Somehow the will HAS to be 'on file', otherwise property could NOT have legally been transferred to others.

Whatever you do, take 3-5 deep breaths BEFORE doing it.... my slice of Hell is small compared to yours but yeesh none of it is fun.


-------------
3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)

Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water


Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2022 at 10:38pm
Originally posted by shameless dude shameless dude wrote:

well....i spent all day today looking for the will! the court house don't have it, so i spent the rest of the day checking with all the lawyers in our community. either they didn't have it, or they wouldn't gimme a copy! spent yesterday contacting lawyers in the big city since i think all the lawyers in our town sleep together! i do know they compare notes on lots of things that should be lawyer/client quiet! the realtor is coming tomarrow to map out an easement thru my back yard! guess he'll get the first hint of my mood! thanks to all you folks praying and thinking of me! 


 The fact that "they" cannot or won't come up with a "last Will and Testament" signed and notarized by your Father / Grandfather means the estate is going to have to go to PROBATE COURT, which every state has to have. The stockholders cannot sell anything as it will be a Probate Judge that decides who gets what based on current laws of Nebraska. You need to insist to your Attorney on it going to Probate if the will is not found. You have gotten an Attorney haven't you? You promised me that you would get one ,,,THIS WEEK,,,!!!


Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2022 at 10:44pm

 If you ask your attorney, you can deny the realtor access to your back yard "Pending Probate Court Actions"  THEN call the Sheriff's Dept,,I bet they will help YOU instead of them,,,,,Clap


Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2022 at 11:15pm
well....i called several law offices today...non...are versed in farm laws...they know about every other types of laws and dealings along with some i've never heard of! 2 of them recommended a local attorney for this...but she is already hired out by the stockholders! PfffffT! there was another meeting today with the realtor/one stockholder & me at my place, they wanted to map out an easement road to the back property.   the realtor wanted it to go between my house and a shed, but they couldn't cuz my septic is in the way. any of you know what width a normal easement is for farm machinery and trucks? most i've ever seen is 20 ft. they want a 50 ft road. we all meet again next Sunday, JohnCo's neighboring POS stockholder is flying in again. they told me i have to remove one of my machine sheds, trees, machinery, and what ever else they can find. i upped the acres i want to keep after they told me that! and they're lips kept flapping, and you should have seen the looks on they're faces when i told them i'll just keep my 1/3 of the farm! it got REAL quiet for quite a few minutes! then the realtor basically said i was hard to get along with. and was making this sale hard! guess he's gonna hafta work a little harder! i'm not gonna make this easy! in the meantime...my basement is flooding cuz the sump pump quit and i didn't know it! PfffffT! how was ya'lls day? better i hope! 


Posted By: JC-WI
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2022 at 12:00am
Shameless, you shoulda called the local dispatcher when that fool said you were hard to work with... And told them you have unwanted TRESPASSERS your land, and to send the police to remove them. ... and a couple of them are not abiding by the agreements that you and your father had for all the years you and him had worked together.
 
 I need to write my wish's out an get them notarized pretty quick so There ain't some fiasco that might happen.    That reminds me, maybe he had just had it notarized so check with the banks notary or other places he and your mother might have gone to. 

  Good Luck.


-------------
He who says there is no evil has already deceived himself
The truth is the truth, sugar coated or not. Trawler II says, "Remember that."


Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2022 at 4:36am
Easement in MO is as the Owners decide, at minimum, can be as little as 20' wide, have to be able to set a single lane road and drainage, utility ONLY easements are as narrow as 10' but ALL easements require distance from existing structures and cannot interfere with EXISTING easements for utilities or access lanes.  Some counties require more and up to sixty feet for multiple properties being served.


Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2022 at 5:36am
I think you are in better shape than you think you are. They are going to want to settle this with you by avoiding litigation. Attorney fees are high and spending days in court are very expensive for both sides. Also, when you go to litigation, both sides run the risk of the judge (or arbitrator) ruling against them. Usually, the result is that neither side is completely happy with a judge's ruling, so it's always best to negotiate an agreement that both sides can live with.

You really need to retain an attorney ASAP. 


Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2022 at 6:39am
you don't need a 'farm law' lawyer... ANY lawyer can Do the two things you NEED NOW.
1) request to the court  to view the Last Will
2) issue a 'hold' or 'cease' order to any 'sale of farm/property'

The fan's going to get dirty real fast when 'they' are served papers.
As others have said ANYONE coming to your property, deny them access. When they attempt to enter the property ,call 911, state name,address, 'trespassers on property will not leave, please hurry'. While the police are coming,position two tractors real close to the trespassers ride.... heck YOU gotta have some fun over this BS problem !!

Now, up here, if a farmer has a contractor for the use of the land, he (the FARMER) can still plant crops/harvest them) BUT that does NOT allow his realtor access to the property.


-------------
3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)

Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water


Posted By: Lars(wi)
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2022 at 7:11am
Dale, did you mention to this realtor that you have not seen a copy of your fathers will? And he/she and the realty company may get dragged into court?

-------------
I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science.


Posted By: Lars(wi)
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2022 at 7:18am
IMHO, you would be best to drive to Lincoln, as there is always a plethora of attorneys that hang around any State Capital, and many that are starving for clients. Best to talk to them in person.

-------------
I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science.


Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2022 at 7:21am
Originally posted by jaybmiller jaybmiller wrote:

you don't need a 'farm law' lawyer... ANY lawyer can Do the two things you NEED NOW.

I disagree !  There are criminal attorneys, attorneys that specialize in "family law" (divorces, child custody, support, etc.), attorneys that specialize in litigating damages for personal injury, attorneys that specialize in land transfers and a bunch of other specializations. 

In my part-time retirement job, I deal with attorneys weekly. They will tell you that you need an attorney with expertise in the field of your problem.




Posted By: Dave H
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2022 at 10:30am
Obviously my dog is not in this fight.  However, it seems that something is missing here.  Are not all properties deeded/titled?

I do not get the concentration on wills?

Maybe it did not get re titled/deeded based on execution of a previous will?

Something must be going over my head?


Posted By: mdm1
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2022 at 10:34am
Dale do you own the house where you live? Why would they want an easement through your yard? Or is the house not going to be part of the sale? From what has been said was the property legally transferred from your father? What do the real estate taxes say? This sounds like quite the mess to figure out. Have you thought about maybe take the money and go buy your own place with no family ties? I assume that would be a large burden to move everything. But you wake up in the morning and it's all yours. But really find a lawyer so you have the answers that you deserve. Good luck!

-------------
Everything is impossible until someone does it! WD45-trip loader 1947 c w/woods belly mower, 1939 B, #3 sickle mower 1944 B, 2 1948 G's. Misc other equipment that my wife calls JUNK!


Posted By: thendrix
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2022 at 10:50am
Buddy I sure hate this for you. I believe I would find a real estate lawyer first and get the things mentioned earlier taken care of.

-------------
"Farming is a business that makes a Las Vegas craps table look like a regular paycheck" Ronald Reagan


Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2022 at 9:29pm
well....we are sposed to sign a contract this Sunday afternoon for the realtor to start with creating the sale. i'm sposed to o-k a new drawing of the lines he is gonna draw up this weekend. i haven't seen any revised stuff yet. i guess i gotta start cleaning out a machine shed so someone can take it down, then cut down trees, i'm not gonna remove any stumps, someone else can do that, do hafta move 2-3 dead combines. i stopped over at the scrap yard, asked what he'd gimme for a working combine? he'll gimme $1500. if i can deliver it, otherwise i'd hafta drive it about 29 miles to get about $350. at an auction! PffffT! it's a good combine, just won't need it anymore now! they won't let me have highway frontage, apparently they have been told by the big green farmer that they want that! i'm not thru with this yet...but getting close, also been looking for other property near me to set up residence. had a close call with the old lady this week, having difficulty breathing, Doc almost stuck her in the hospital today...but didn't, gave her sum meds, she's resting good now! the newest puppy is keeping tabs on her! anyway...which ever way we go, that easement road is gonna cut thru the middle of my new property anywhere. the nway it looks now, if we have company, they'll hafta park in the highway ditch so as to not block a green something with tires.  


Posted By: JC-WI
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2022 at 9:55pm
Nope, I ain't signing that contract. 
 These 'urgent' contracts usually are made for a reason.   Ask them so called stockholders what debts are they trying to cover on their end...?
  Why are they in charge when you were the one that ran the farms with your dad? ... and after that.
   Don't like the crap they are pulling, get up and walk away and as leaving, tell them they will be hearing from your lawyer.
  Good luck Dale.


-------------
He who says there is no evil has already deceived himself
The truth is the truth, sugar coated or not. Trawler II says, "Remember that."


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2022 at 10:05pm
dont rush into anything Dale... not sure why YOU have to cut the trees to make THEIR road ?  and why does the GREEN GUY get to decide  "what" is for sale and if you get any frontage road ?

-------------
Like them all, but love the "B"s.


Posted By: DanWi
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2022 at 10:27pm
Tell them you won't sign anything until you get a lawyer to review it.


Posted By: Dirt Farmer
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2022 at 10:55pm
Hang in there Shameless, make a quiet appearance on Sunday but don't sign anything, you could say you are focused on your wife's issue and "may not be in the right frame of mind" if ya know what I mean and also who signs a realestate contract on a Sunday. Heck I dont start a farm season or a different field on a Sunday anymore as my worst breakdowns happen on the following Monday. You two take care of each other and get some sleep. Still praying for ya.


Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2022 at 9:28am
Originally posted by shameless dude shameless dude wrote:

well....we are sposed to sign a contract this Sunday afternoon for the realtor to start with creating the sale. i'm sposed to o-k a new drawing of the lines he is gonna draw up this weekend. i haven't seen any revised stuff yet. i guess i gotta start cleaning out a machine shed so someone can take it down, then cut down trees, i'm not gonna remove any stumps, someone else can do that, do hafta move 2-3 dead combines. i stopped over at the scrap yard, asked what he'd gimme for a working combine? he'll gimme $1500. if i can deliver it, otherwise i'd hafta drive it about 29 miles to get about $350. at an auction! PffffT! it's a good combine, just won't need it anymore now! they won't let me have highway frontage, apparently they have been told by the big green farmer that they want that! i'm not thru with this yet...but getting close, also been looking for other property near me to set up residence. had a close call with the old lady this week, having difficulty breathing, Doc almost stuck her in the hospital today...but didn't, gave her sum meds, she's resting good now! the newest puppy is keeping tabs on her! anyway...which ever way we go, that easement road is gonna cut thru the middle of my new property anywhere. the nway it looks now, if we have company, they'll hafta park in the highway ditch so as to not block a green something with tires.  

Ain’t adding up???
Is the realtor also a lawyer and also a surveyor?
Slow down.
You’ve been dealing with these folks a long time.
DO NOT accept any deal that you won’t be happy a week, month, year or many years from now.
I never dreamed I’d ever say this but you need to Lawyer up.


Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2022 at 9:46am
Please, pretty pleAse with sugar on top...
DO NOT SIGN ANYTHING, DO NOT SELL/MOVE ANY OF YOUR STUFF, DO NOT DO ANY WORK ON THE PROPERTY !!!!!

GET A LAWYER PDQ !!! Squirmy, slimey one all the better...

I (we) cannot stress this enough....

If they give you ANY papers to sign, haul off to YOUR LAWYER, PDQ.

when 'they' ask about 'did you sign them yet', just respond, 'my lawyers got them'....

YOU have a wife to take care of, TOP responsibilty...


We're all on YOUR side, take 3 deeep breaths, say 4 ah-ums, and try to relax.

DO NOT SIGN YOUR LIFE AWAY !!!!  BTDT, it ain't nice after that.




-------------
3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)

Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water


Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2022 at 11:45am
One thing on any easement that accesses a city , county , state , township road is - those agencies NEED TO APPROVE that access from property to the roadway . 
 Just because a realtor draws up something - UNLESS it has approval by local permitting agency - it's just a scribble on a piece of paper . 
  Dealt with several individuals who wanted to build on property but local government agency would not allow access where they wanted a drive or easement. Required a survey and then a hearing before a planning board to approve . 
   Sounds like they have other plans for the land - like a sub division for other than farming -    

-------------
Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something.
"Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful."


Posted By: Dorix
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2022 at 3:28pm
  I think everyone's advice not to sign or commit to anything is good advice, I think you need to expand your search for a lawyer, you shouldn't have to start building their road.


Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2022 at 11:44pm
thanks to all for the advice, and thoughts and prayers! i've read ya'lls comments and learned a few things i didn't know before. i didn't sign anything last Sunday, i've got an accountant checking on the taxes, met with the county assessor and some other folks that will be involved, no lawyer yet, but closing in on a couple that are yet to get back to me. we were all standing and talking when i dropped the bomb...had to move my feet before their chins crashed into them. i told them i was gonna retain my 1/3 of the farm and they could do what ever they wanted with theirs. that deer stare in the headlight looks stayed there for quite awhile. hope i can afford to keep it. the rest of the farm will be on the auction block in Sept. now i don't hafta move anything nor tear out a machine shed or cut any trees down. so far....so good...and the old lady....ooooops....i mean the loving wife is getting along alot better Thanks! 


Posted By: KJCHRIS
Date Posted: 01 May 2022 at 12:28am
Shameless, you and the wife hang in there and look after each other. Sounds like you're moving forward on getting the estate figured out and working towards dividing it. 

-------------
AC 200, CAH, AC185D bareback, AC 180D bareback, D17 III, WF. D17 Blackbar grill, NF. D15 SFW. Case 1175 CAH, Bobcat 543B,


Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 01 May 2022 at 6:25am
re: the rest of the farm will be on the auction block in Sept.

That 'suggests' that someone, somewhere HAS proper LEGAL ownership (ie TITLE or DEED ) to the property,  UNLESS maybe they're using their 'power of attorney' to sell it ?? Only way they could auction it is WITH ownership/deed. I'd have your LAWYER contact auction house to get copies of the contract THEY signed with auction house.

Considering the legal problems IF the auction house sold a property without proper legal paperwork, I'm betting the 'house' lawyers KNOW how to cross their Ts and dot their Is !

ANY lawyer, even a wet eared kid, can file a 'contest the will' type paperwork in a court. I would think that if NO will can be found , the court would split the assets of the estate into equal shares to the immediate family ?

You've and your LAWYER have several 'actions' you can take and remember this is business so try to not get emotional (yeah hard to do..BTDT).


-------------
3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)

Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 01 May 2022 at 8:57am


-------------
Like them all, but love the "B"s.


Posted By: Dennis J OPKs
Date Posted: 01 May 2022 at 11:03am
I think this is a universal definition and I've been told that "Power of Attorney" is only valid as long as the person is living and ceases upon death.  They may be using something else- executor of estate, etc. ?


Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 01 May 2022 at 6:27pm
Originally posted by Dennis J OPKs Dennis J OPKs wrote:

I think this is a universal definition and I've been told that "Power of Attorney" is only valid as long as the person is living and ceases upon death.  They may be using something else- executor of estate, etc. ?

I just read something saying the same thing about "Power of Attorney" it end when the person dies. Then the will and/or the executor of the estate have power to doing things with the assets.

Hang in there.


Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 01 May 2022 at 7:06pm
Executor can execute the orders of a will or court orders on equitable dispersal.
Nothing the executor does is free hand except pay bill on the estate until will is satisfied.


Posted By: JC-WI
Date Posted: 01 May 2022 at 7:22pm
Dale, Ye sure put a laugh and a smile on my face reading your post.  Wink  LOL   Thumbs Up


-------------
He who says there is no evil has already deceived himself
The truth is the truth, sugar coated or not. Trawler II says, "Remember that."


Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 02 May 2022 at 6:09am
In my opinion,the fact that you live on the section that you want to keep, and have been living there for several years, will work in your favor in a judge's decision, especially when the other "stakeholders" don't live on any of the land they want to sell.




Posted By: tadams(OH)
Date Posted: 02 May 2022 at 2:30pm
  Sounds like a great plan Shameless 


Posted By: ac hunter
Date Posted: 02 May 2022 at 3:34pm
Shameless and Mrs. Shameless,
     Sorry you are having such a difficult time. Retirement shouldn't contain such troubles, or any other time for that matter. You have our prayers. An attorney once told me not to get in a hurry nor do anything until you  know all your options. Don't let others push you into a hasty decision. Hope you get through all this with minimal stress.


Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 20 May 2022 at 6:24am
I saw, in another post, that you were interested in selling a building (that houses "the machine"). Any updates on your deal with the stockholders?


Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 20 May 2022 at 3:46pm
I have yet to sign anything. as it stands right now, still waiting for a couple agencies to get back to me reference a 1031. i'll be retaining 73 acres including the house we live in. this is not a 1/3rd of the farm, but it's a piece we are interested in. with the sale of the rest, i'll still get my share off that, and then pay back 2/3rds for the land and house, i have numerous buildings on the property, but they are all my buildings, they thought they would sell with the land, but when i came up with the tax documents, it shot them outta the water! when i get the info needed for the 1031, then we can proceed. so far I haven't needed to SLAP anyone! and yes...the big green farmers wanted this piece to develope into a housing development. you see...they have property between us and town, and if they made this into a developement, it would make their land worth lots more. SUPRIZE!


Posted By: thendrix
Date Posted: 20 May 2022 at 4:15pm
Grit your teeth and smile buddy. You know nothing good comes from losing your temper

-------------
"Farming is a business that makes a Las Vegas craps table look like a regular paycheck" Ronald Reagan


Posted By: Walker
Date Posted: 20 May 2022 at 6:43pm
I'd make ya put in an overhead Stucky's across the easement like they used to have on the New York Thruway.


Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 20 May 2022 at 6:44pm
Orange triumphs over Green, tada !!!!!
That has to put a smile on everyone's faces !!!!
Hang in there, looks like you're in the 'driver's seat'.....

before you sign ANYTHING, read it slow and careful, watch out for 'fancy words', addendums, etc.... they can be 'smoke and mirrors' used to skrue you !!!
Never sign anything in their office ! Take it home, read it 3-4 times, as many times as it takes to get the 'gist' of what they 'say'. Be real careful about the 'numbers', lawyers love to run them in their favour, NEVER yours.
If they get uppity about 'sign here, now'..RUN out of the office.




-------------
3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)

Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water


Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 20 May 2022 at 8:27pm
Easements and Cart ways are sometimes on section lines and are 16 ' , township roadways are normally 33 ' . roadway is 66 ' . 
Sounds like the idea was for the 50 ' first wanted was for access for subdivision of property . Also in most places property can not be sold that is land locked - in fact here only way non frontage property can be sold is if a dedicated roadway is granted to town or city of the 66 ft . 
 Like i said before a township , city , county needs to PERMIT access to the road frontage (whoever owns road) . Reason they wanted your property is they did not need to file for access through zoning as you already have existing access . That in itself is a MAJOR cost they would avoid by taking yours. 

-------------
Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something.
"Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful."


Posted By: Lars(wi)
Date Posted: 20 May 2022 at 11:01pm
73 acres? Just enough room to start running hogs. Get some self feeders that have clanging lids, let the hogs create some mud holes,,,,,,,,,,or better yet, go to the next township board meeting and apply for a permit to operate a junkyard(ahem, a recycling center), tell them you have ‘big plans’ for your property.

-------------
I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science.


Posted By: JC-WI
Date Posted: 21 May 2022 at 12:10am
Really sucks when a farm farms his land into houses... Means he wasn't really a farmer but a framer... that screws the farm lands away.

 Yea, Poor ol' Shameless's kin are busy tryin to sell his part of the farms for their fast buck, while those crooksters are gettin screwed by the Big Shot farmer who is screwin them to make his fast buck... Wacko  Censored  
  Them shysters, the whole lot should be given a big heavy THUD of a boot that send them far away... never to be seen or heard from again. But then that is just 'MO' for the day.


-------------
He who says there is no evil has already deceived himself
The truth is the truth, sugar coated or not. Trawler II says, "Remember that."


Posted By: klinemar
Date Posted: 21 May 2022 at 5:57am
Coke figured out what the Weasels were up to. And good for you Shameless for not slapping the snot out of them! Now we know what schemes they have been dreaming up!


Posted By: JW in MO
Date Posted: 21 May 2022 at 8:44am
I sure hope everything continues in your favor, darn shame when friends treat you better than family.  I'm lucky, we all get along, maybe some day there will be reconciliation and things will smooth out, you never know, it could happen.


-------------
Maximum use of available resources!



Print Page | Close Window

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 11.10 - http://www.webwizforums.com
Copyright ©2001-2017 Web Wiz Ltd. - https://www.webwiz.net