NOT going to happen, at least in what's left of my lifetime.

First ,all the farms running <100HP tractors are/will be bought up by 'megafarm' owners. They need to run huge machines to be profitable. Current farmers couldn't afford the battery powered tractors,or the hydro upgrades or ,more importantly the WAIT to recharge !

2nd...love the '80% recharge in xx minutes' BS. Hello ,what about a FULL recharge? How about a 10 hour run time at FULL power ??? Never hear the REAL specs from REAL use. It's one thing to pull a small disc over pool table flat land ,how about a real day of pulling a 5 furrow plow, in clayish soil on hilly fields ??

3rd 'upgrades'. Many 'G's have been electrified over the decades,'funny' how no one is selling a new version ,least it's NOT making the 6oclock news. Big problem in modifying  is weight distribution. Be interesting to see how BIG the battery has to be to supply 100HP for 10 hours, and of course the cost to 100% recharge it. Did the simple math... you'll need a 240V , 400 AMP service JUST to charge ONE battery.

 Allis Chalmers had a fuel cell prototype back in the 1950's.

https://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/search/object/nmah_687671" rel="nofollow - https://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/search/object/nmah_687671

You gotta be kidding.  Along with that mega watt tractor We will provide a huge generator on the bed of a truck to run full blast on site to recharge the batts during the third shift.    Oh yeah that is easy peasy with the mentality of what is going on now.

reminds me when Bell Canada  put phone line in at friends farm...

next day he plowed it up...

2 days later they reburied it..

2 days later they reburied it..

2 days later they reburied it..

finally they went overhead,on the hydro poles...

idiots....

Just drive over to your 10 MEGAWATT wind turbine and charge up.

On the tractor we have 800 volt wires all over.

What would it take to run large 3pt lift arms.

The 12v volt linear actuator from the Lay-Z-Boy,

I don't think would work out.

I have an electric chainsaw. Just one battery. I have a lot of

down time waiting to charge. So I sharpen the chain. Split

the wood. Still waiting for battery.

just for giggles....

Ford's Lightning has a nominal 100KW battery, lasts 230 miles(yeah right...)

Benefit of doubt make is 240 miles, @60MPH that's 4 hrs 'run' time.

So....to get a day(12hrs) of farming in ,you need 3 batteries ($15K a piece) PLUS downtime to swap out the batteries( 3 x per day...). BTW each battery weighs 1800 pounds(close to a ton...)

wonder how many recharges the battery is good for ?

And we haven't even talked about cold weather operations !!!

 

I think this is actually the bigger issue with the idea of trying to go all electric, supplying the power to the end users. So if I go electric I need to upgrade the service to my home/shop to be able to charge my vehicles. Which in a number of cases means the utility company will need to upgrade the service coming to my place. Now multiply this by the millions of people across the country who will need these service improvements done. That works out to a hell of a lot of money, who do you think is going to pay for it? The electrical grid in parts of the country has trouble supplying power to all of the customers at different times of the year, how about if the usage goes up dramatically all of the time? And we haven't even looked at the actual ability to generate electricity. I agree we need to take a long look at how we are treating this hunk of rock we live on, but rushing into a "solution" likely isn't as wise as some think it is.

Steve, my reference to the speed was to determine how long that battery would provide power. A battery is rated in KwH (the product of # of Kw (energy) x time ). A 100KwH battery 'should' be able to provide 100Kw of power for 1 hour, 200Kw or 1/2hr, 1 Kw for 100 hrs. well, of course MFRs lie about the 'spec', but it's a 'baseline' starting point.

Similar BS about charging them....80% is often touted in the 'specs' for how fast they'll recharge. It's more smoke and mirrors. What they ARE saying(between the lines) is they require you to NEVER ,ever go below 20% LEFT in the battery ! For several reasons, never stated, they don't want you to USE the battery the way we all use regular batteries....

Battery life is directly related to how much energy you pull out of it in a period of time, farming would be the 'worst case scenario'...sucking a zillion amps constantly

 Yes, getting recharge power will be a HUGE expense ! Biden's Interstate EV power system is a 5 BILLION venture, puts a station every 50 miles. Each and every TRACTOR will need it's OWN 400 Amp service, you can't share them !

What's never reported is how EVs will run after a hurricane, big bad wind, ice storms, pole down ,etc.

so what's old is new again ???

stone quarry,2 roads over HAD electric engines to shuttle the gondolas to the escarpment(side of mountain). They then used electric winches to slowly get the cars down to the main line. Only thing left is the winch and cable.....

Electric has been used but the generator was carried on machine to run part of it . 
Now the fuel cell is a separate idea from electric battery as it produces the power using a fuel and it seems many are missing that part . 
 Back in the late 90's the company i worked for was making titanium plates for a fuel cell for GM - we produced enough plates for around 200 fuel cells a week . The design and part of project was the old AC patents GM had acquired .  

Given a 100KWH battery and tractor electric motor drawing 200HP.

I figure we can pull 80KWH from the battery. 200HP draw is 150KW.

That will run the tractor for 32 minutes. Isn't that something!

We need a bigger battery.  Maybe they could fit 4 of them

100KW batteries on a good size tractor. Wow, now we can run for 2 hours!

So if you want to run for 10 hours.... They say batteries are getting

5% better each year. Going to be 24 years before they get 5x better.

100KwH battery weighs about 1800#, call it a ton(need 4 strong mounting brackets !!)

4 batts = 4 TONS...could be good weight ?

Curious, What's a 200HP tractor weigh ?

If you want to use it puling hard, like heavy primary tillage, 100-110 pounds per HP is a good rule of thumb.  Normally have to add ballast to achieve that.  

Canada has 3 of top 10 nickel mines, heckuva lot of aluminum too so WE (CANUSA) really,really don't NEED Russian ores......

hmm wonder how long that hybrid would last plowing fields all day ???

??

Yep.  Hard to beat an electric motor for torque.  Getting the drive to dump it's guts and get stuff going is remarkable.  But, for how long? In a car, you get it up to speed using all that torque and power, then most of the time is spent cruising along at maybe 50 HP or less, and very little torque.  Now, how does a tractor operate?

So.....your point is?

https://www.oreillyauto.com/flux-500.html?q=flux+capacitor+" rel="nofollow - Flux Capacitor - Great Scott! | O'Reilly Auto Parts (oreillyauto.com)

Its like those little yellow ribbons that were all the rage, a few years ago.  wear 1 and it showed you care.  wear 2, and it shows you care even more!

The more solar panels you have, the more you care about green energy!

and that is what it's all about, has nothing to do with the environment only who's going to profit and pay off who!!  The middle class pays and get left with enough for scraps while the politicians and the elites bleed us dry.

re: cannot push a rope uphill.

sure you can !!! the 'trick' is to soak the rope in water, then FREEZE it....

and ...no, I've NOT been told today..

The Fendt Xaver, could well be the future of farming.

https://www.fendt.com/us/xaver" rel="nofollow - https://www.fendt.com/us/xaver

Speaking of Fendt, does this look or sound familiar to any of you guys?

http://www.fendt.com/int/variopull" rel="nofollow - http://www.fendt.com/int/variopull

hmm why not just have 2 meals a day ?

2 people only eat two meals, that give two 'leftover' meals to a 3rd person

the 'math' seems to work ??

can't.....not possible.

then again fusion reactors generate MORE energy than they consume....hmmmm

kinda surprised there's no fire detection/suppression systems in them windmills

I suppose all that burning fibreglass and oil isn't a serious health threat to man or beast ?

Toyota and Hyundai have electric cars that make their own electricity.

They make the electricity in a fuel cell (as per old Allis experiment).

The hydrogen is made by... reforming natural gas. But it could be

made from solar or wind electricity. I think the Toyota fuel cell is

 100KW power rating. So 4 of them could run that 200hp tractor.

Fusion is just around the corner, still just around the corners.  It will create a pile of activated (radio active transmuted elements) out of the reactor walls.

Fission makes radioactive waste also.

They all (inc. coal and NG) make about 50% waste heat that we usually send up the cooling tower or dump into nearby body of water.

New battery idea of the day is also just around the corner.

I use more energy heating the house and shop than running around in car.

So I need a better thermal insulation material. They are working on that, just

around the corner...

Don't think a battery system will ever cut it. That extension cord is the only way I can see it done.

A lot of deep pit hog confinement buildings are periodically pumped, with effluent injected directly in the ground.......they drag a hose across the field. Source is a pump at the building. Terminal is a manifold on the chisel plow. Relay in the cab turns pump on and off. You would have to drag the extension cord the same way. Small tractor, small fields.......huge infrastructure to distribute it.

Don't see how overhead lines.......like what runs streetcars.......would ever work.

As for large scale freight.......would have to go back to trains, with populations and industrial plants clustered along these train lines........or along spur lines or loops off the main lines.

But the 800 pound gorilla question still remains.........what fuel source of all the AC electricity being generated on demand? Be it for tractors, trucks or trains?

Solar, Batteries and Wind still are WANNA BEES....... the technology just is not there yet.

 So they must  know how to bring "juice" in from Chinana so way I don't know about. 

No thanks! I like it quiet where I live. And if things get a little too stupid I can always go out and drop a deer for the meat.

Are clueless Twits

Great Uncle and Aunt Farm was originally Horse Power, planted 80 acres each season hayed another 40 acres and rotated crops across 160 acres leaving 40 acres fallow alternating annually out of the 160.  Farm supported ten milk cows, four Draft Horses and two Mules, chickens and pigs.  But that was ALL it could support as to that 200 acres. Machinery, horses, feed and labor was shared across the other seven Family related Farms where crops were alternated to keep a variety among them, gardens similarly and harvested animals also shared.  Ben and Mabel delivered five cans of Milk and one of Cream to a hauler every few days and sold eggs for pennies per dozen also harvested daily from a rather large brood house.  None of the grains or feed stocks were generally sold outright unless the end of season left enough to peddle.  Fertilizers were not bought, but supplied by the Stock.

Same farm ground today is rotated Corn Beans Wheat on all of the acres, the livestock Long Gone, to return to subsistence Horse Drawn farming results in the same levels of deliveries as in the past and less production overall.  Cannot have same levels of production today going back to the Old Ways even with the new seeds or crop types without commercial fertilizers as manure will only give up so much.  

The other issue stands alone as to stock, MUST be attended Daily, day in/day out by someone, either the owner or family nearby, are NO vacation days if no one else to help.