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Topic: 716H wont move
Posted By: Djp9211
Subject: 716H wont move
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2022 at 3:20am
I have a 716h I used yesterday to blow snow pulled it in the garage went out this morning to hop on it to finish blowing the snow off driveway and it won't do anything when you move forward and reverse. Any help would be greatly appreciated!


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Posted By: oldfords
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2022 at 8:37am
The first thing I would look at is to make sure the two little plungers under the seat are up. They are located under a spring loaded lever that you push down to free wheel the tractor

Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2022 at 11:51am
welcome to the forum.
Also some time people push clutch brake in and it sticks, so make sure the belt is tight and is spinning the rear pulley and check oil levels. 

Posted By: Djp9211
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2022 at 12:54pm
I think I found what you're talking about they don't seem to move I took them out to clean but doesn't seem like they come apart should the buttons go down easy or are they stuck? Also have a sound coming from centrifugal clutch and have no pullys spinning

Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2022 at 1:05pm
with it running the front pulley off bevel gear box should be spinning. If not check drive shaft off engine. There’s round fiber plates that bolt in between each end of drive shaft. Or maybe bevel gearbox is out.

Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2022 at 1:07pm
if your belt isn’t spinning it’s not the buttons. And yes they do stick if you don’t use them. Soak them in penetrating oil

Posted By: Djp9211
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2022 at 1:29pm
The drive shaft spins but nothing after that is.turning

Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2022 at 1:31pm
bad news then. That gear box is out. And it’s expensive to rebuild. But in my opinion worth fixing the ole girl

Posted By: Djp9211
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2022 at 1:50pm
I was afraid of that. Any idea how hard it is to rebuild or replace? Or where to find a new one?

Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2022 at 3:46pm
well do you have an old small engine repair shop with experience with them. Or you working on it yourself. If you don’t have parts books, you can look up parts tree. Type in 7016 and look for simplicity and look for bevel gear box. A lot of folks on here use sandy lake implement and ask for Brenda 

Posted By: DaveWisc.
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2022 at 12:52pm
Idk bye could you just replace the box easier

Posted By: ac55tractor
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2022 at 9:33pm
I just searched around for a pair of gears for you. They are not cheap. 

https://www.partstree.com/parts/simplicity-2172752sm/" rel="nofollow - Simplicity Repair Part 2172752SM - Bevel Gear, 2.00 Od 0.8 | PartsTree
https://www.partstree.com/parts/simplicity-2171796sm/" rel="nofollow - Simplicity Repair Part 2171796SM - Rear Bevel, 2.00Od 0.8 | PartsTree

You may be better off finding a replacement bevel gear box. They made different boxes for these tractors. Just be careful what you choose. 

eBay has one for about the price of new gears. 
I am not recommending that you buy anything. I am just showing you examples. 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185365069469?hash=item2b289e7e9d:g:opMAAOSwg6tiRY4E" rel="nofollow - Simplicity Allis Chalmers Bevel Gear Box 7112 Tractor | eBay

Send me a personal message. I will send you back my email and I will forward a parts manual and operators manual to you. 
I just tried to send them through the forum, they wouldn't go.  
Glad to help

I have 4 Simplicity Garden tractors here at the house. I have kept them all running for over 25 years now. 
Simplicity 3510
Simplicity 7013S
Simplicity 7016
Simplicity 7016H

Steve (in ME)


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