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Newly Acquired 63 D Grader

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Topic: Newly Acquired 63 D Grader
Posted By: W Speedy
Subject: Newly Acquired 63 D Grader
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 7:49pm
While I haven’t finished the W Speed Patrol, a D Grader became available. We had to drag it onto the trailer whereas the driveline was frozen stiff. Got her home in fine shape and started to get into the issues. Warmed up the transmission and planned to drain the water into a 8 quart pan. Bare hands, hot water, toasty plug, and a 4 + gallon mess.
 Checked the compression, 1,2 & 4 @ 125#, #3 @50. New points and condenser from the W and it started right up. Blew up the rags that were tires, unloaded it,and drove  it around the yard. 

The front end is wobbly, the hoist and wheel tilt cylinders need repacking, and the 2&3 gear linkage is frozen. No real rust on the cab, probably been in cold storage 20 years. 

Any ideas on the shifter? I’m guessing the slide has rusted tight. Also looking for a set of tires, 8.25-20’s, and a transmission shifter boot. 
#3 cylinder tested cold today at 75#. Any recommendations on that?
Thanks,
Bill



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Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 8:17pm
On the tires, 8.5-20 grader tires are pricey and rare.  Use truck tires, or military 9.5-20, 1/2 to 2/3 worn. New, they are too tall, hit in the middle of the tandems, if you use new military ND lug tires.  Good luck!Thumbs Up

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Posted By: W Speedy
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 5:01am
I’m on a waiting list for some Super Traction’s that have been back ordered about 8 months. Ground is frozen now so no big rush. 

One wheel ring has been damaged so I’m on the hunt for a replacement. 

Thanks Dave. 


Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 5:39pm
Wheels are easy.  Old IH trucks and school busses use a 2 piece split rim budd style that clamps right up to the D centers...Wink

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Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 6:14pm
"BUDD" wheels have lug bolt hole like your car. "DAYTON" type wheels are open centers to mount onto spoke hubs, and are not exclusive to any brand. All tube tube type truck rims are multi piece split rims

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Real pullers don't have speed limits.
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Posted By: DonBC
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 7:08pm
I used 8.25 x 20 truck tires when I got my D grader. It came with miss matched tires and since all 4 wheels are locked together all tires should be identical. I used a tread that was something slightly more aggressive than highway tires. Possibly what you would use on a gravel truck. I used a boot that's used to cover the CV joints on a front wheel drive car as a shifter boot.

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Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2022 at 4:47am
Originally posted by PaulB PaulB wrote:

"BUDD" wheels have lug bolt hole like your car. "DAYTON" type wheels are open centers to mount onto spoke hubs, and are not exclusive to any brand. All tube tube type truck rims are multi piece split rims

Thanks for the correction, Paul, I always heard my grandfather refer to the wrench used on Dayton wheels as a Budd wrench, hence my error...Wink


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Posted By: W Speedy
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2022 at 6:33am
Thanks for the accurate information folks, much appreciated. 

I ordered a maintenance manual from Yesterday’s Tractor and received a D17 manual. While it covers the engine well, nothing on the drive line is pertinent. It gets returned today and I’ll look for something more accurate. 


Posted By: DonBC
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2022 at 12:35pm
I had all the manuals for my D grader but they went with the grader when I sold it. They are a great machine but I made a few modifications to make it more user friendly such as power steering and a toe & heel foot control on the right side for the throttle.

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Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2022 at 2:38pm

Thanks for the correction, Paul, I always heard my grandfather refer to the wrench used on Dayton wheels as a Budd wrench, hence my error...Wink
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If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere.
Real pullers don't have speed limits.
If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY


Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2022 at 2:49pm
hmm. maybe http://www.liberatedmanuals.com" rel="nofollow - www.liberatedmanuals.com has a manual ??
will be 'fun' trying to find it though, LOTS of neat stuff there....


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