difference between 190xt- 200
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Topic: difference between 190xt- 200
Posted By: ribsplitter
Subject: difference between 190xt- 200
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2010 at 6:31pm
| what are the differences between a 190 xt and a 200? |
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Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2010 at 8:17pm
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Later 190xt had wider finals than earlier and 4 pinion differential but most XT diesels were changed over on a recall to wider finals. The 200 had even wider finals. The 200 had a MarkII? 2900 engine with a better cooling fan and other improvements. Grill is different. Some other minor changes in hydraulics. Fuel gage is in the tank and not on the dash at least on some anyway. Not a whole lot of differences really. ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2010 at 9:13pm
| 200 was first to have factory AC cab, 190 XT cabs were aftermarket |
Posted By: Skyhighballoon(MO)
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2010 at 9:17pm
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I believe the 200 had different 3 point geometry and could lift about 50% more?...also thought I've seen some comments about the 200 having a "gated" power director lever on the side console that caused some PD wear problems if not adjusted correctly. Mike
------------- 1981 Gleaner F2 Corn Plus w 13' flex 1968 Gleaner EIII w 10' & 330 1969 180 gas 1965 D17 S-IV gas 1963 D17 S-III gas 1956 WD45 gas NF PS 1956 All-Crop 66 Big Bin 303 wire baler, 716H, 712H mowers |
Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2010 at 9:18pm
| 200 Had a different turbo and resonator, and a slower turning blade fan for better cooling. To name a few. Right from Norm's boodk. |
Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2010 at 9:18pm
| 7 blade fan |
Posted By: Lester
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2010 at 6:23am
| The 200 also had 2 oil filters . |
Posted By: gcalent
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2010 at 8:55am
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later 200`s had the better disc type brakes that held better and lasted longer ------------- Pullin With AC |
Posted By: Clay
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2010 at 9:00am
| The 200 is ten more than the 190. |
Posted By: Hurst
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2010 at 9:00am
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The 3pt had the cylinders mounted below the axle line on the axle housings versus above, giving better geometry. 7000 was the same way. Also, didn't the 200 have wider gears in the transmission? Hurst ------------- 1979 Allis Chalmers 7000 5800 Hours |
Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2010 at 10:12am
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the 200 had larger axles, also offered long axles. the gated power director was part of the cost reduced tractors I think, as early ones had the same lever as a 190. the 200 should actually dyno about 105hp also since they were never tested, and based on the XT test. the injection pump for a 200 is set for higher fuel delivery than an XT, although later XT's were set to a higher spec than the early tractors, the 200 is still a little hotter. ------------- 210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers! |
Posted By: Kevin in WA
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2010 at 10:30am
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Axles are the same diameter from later 190 to 7000, 3 1/4 inch. |
Posted By: Leon B MO
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2010 at 8:43pm
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Did any xt's come out with the hyd. pto clutch.
Leon B MO ------------- Uncle always said "Fill the back of the shovel and the front will take care of itself". |
Posted By: AllisChalmers37
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2010 at 8:51pm
Is it just me or does that cab on the 200 look somewhat like the one on a 7000 series?
 VS
 ------------- 1937 WC, 1950 CA, 1959 D14, 1967 190XT, 2006 Ram 3500 |
Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2010 at 9:11pm
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yes, the cabs do seem similar. the side windows are drilled with bolts going through the glass to attach to the metal hinge. definitely a family connection.
------------- 210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers! |
Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2010 at 9:18pm
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Didn't the 200 come with 38" rubber as standard whereas the standard for the 190 was 34"? Also didn't the 200 have the two speed pto option where the 190 was either/or? ------------- ALLIS EXPRESS! This year: |
Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2010 at 5:30am
Late 190's had the optional dual speed PTO. ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
Eldon (WA) wrote:Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2010 at 5:31am
Yes, from the beginning it was an option. My Dad's gas XT is a 1965 with this option. ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2010 at 5:33am
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Both Cabs are designed and built by Allis. ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
Posted By: Lester
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2010 at 6:25am
| A very low % of 200s came with 38s. |