$22,000 L3
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Topic: $22,000 L3
Posted By: CrestonM
Subject: $22,000 L3
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2022 at 12:37pm
Did anyone else see the L3 that sold for $22,000 this morning? The 24’ header sold separate for $6,000. Pretty amazing, two other L3s sold for over $10,000 today. It’s nice to see these conventionals bringing that kind of money. Anyone want to speculate why?  Here’s a link: https://www.bigiron.com/Lots/1984Allis-ChalmersGleanerL3Combine" rel="nofollow - https://www.bigiron.com/Lots/1984Allis-ChalmersGleanerL3Combine |
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Posted By: Ron(AB)
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2022 at 1:19pm
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It has low hours and in nice shape...you could get those dollars here in Can. ------------- 405, 7000, 7050, 8050, 8070, L3, 2300 & 2600 disk |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2022 at 1:21pm
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Wow, an almost 40 year old combine/header setup for $28,000. I'm sure the whole answer of "why" is multi faceted and intertwined. Not sure about combines specifically, but some new equipment was a year minimum out from order placed last fall. So....if you really need a machine, maybe ran one years ago and are familiar with what you can do with it and how to work on it, so you get one to hold you over until a new or newer one comes available? I bought a combine, flex head, and header cart this summer of about that vintage for less than half that and it gave me very little trouble this year. Header cart was practically brand new. Sometimes ya' get lucky, sometimes you don't.
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Posted By: JohnColo
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2022 at 2:10pm
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I watched an auction last night of a JD 9550 sell in Londonberry, Ohio, I think, on the 14 of Jan sell for $39,000. Around a twenty year old machine with around 3200 hours on it. Auction Pete had it on YouTube and Brians farm was there filming too. |
Posted By: Greg (Hillsboro, OH)
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2022 at 2:13pm
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As said, shortage of new equipment, coupled with difficulty of getting electronic parts for newer machines. On top of that a lot of new equipment has proprietary software/tools making repair availablity limited and expensive. Sometimes simpler is better!!!
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Posted By: JohnColo
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2022 at 2:19pm
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I see the R70 with 4400 hours and a Doutz V8 only brought $4100. |
Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2022 at 2:50pm
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I think having a Deutz air diesel hurts the value of those simply because of the horror stories that float around that are rooted in improper maintenance. I’ve always heard if they are maintained (oil leaks fixed, impellers replaced when needed, fins kept clean) that they are a very good engine. |
Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2022 at 2:52pm
I agree! I guess it’s that way with everything these days, from cars to combines. Older machines are just commanding a higher price than they did just a few years ago. |
Greg (Hillsboro, OH) wrote:Posted By: Daehler
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2022 at 3:45pm
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There was a green stripe with only 600 separator hours that sold today on purplewave for only $8900 with 15ft head. That was a steal but the green stripe just don't look the same. ------------- 8070FWA,7080 BlackBelly, 7045,2 200s,D19,D17,G, WD,45,UC,7 AC mowers and lots more! "IT TAKES 3 JD's TO OUT DO AN ALLIS, 2 TO MATCH IT IN THE FIELD AND 1 FOR PARTS!" |
Posted By: Leon B MO
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2022 at 4:49pm
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Tractor house had a green stripe L3 sold today for $10,100, non rwa, no heads. To me that sounds about right. Maybe even a bit high. Leon B MO ------------- Uncle always said "Fill the back of the shovel and the front will take care of itself". |
Posted By: 1963D17
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2022 at 5:00pm
| Inflation and us smaller farmers can't afford a 6 figure machine. I bought my 6620 with 213 and 443 heads 15 years ago for 7500.00 Sold them this fall after harvest for 10,750.00 |
Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2022 at 5:02pm
LMAO !!! There's a poster on NAT that slams the Duetz Engine on his "former" machine !!! Seems like he was the only guy with problems/fixes with that engine
  . He also had issues with a "FORD" branded 4X4 tractor  . Seems like his replacement GREEN machine dropped a front axle in the field though . |
Posted By: Daehler
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2022 at 6:45pm
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The V8s are a little bit more prone to fires per what my mechanic says. I've seen more 50 and 40s burned that 60s. Also that 70 had 4 times the amount of hours on it. 4 times+ the wear since it has double the capacity of the L3. I haven't called anyplace about rebuild parts for a V8 but have heard it's 25 to $30,000. So not cheap if it needs motor work. ------------- 8070FWA,7080 BlackBelly, 7045,2 200s,D19,D17,G, WD,45,UC,7 AC mowers and lots more! "IT TAKES 3 JD's TO OUT DO AN ALLIS, 2 TO MATCH IT IN THE FIELD AND 1 FOR PARTS!" |
Posted By: Tom59
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2022 at 7:44pm
| I wonder what a nice Gleaner F3 in the same condition would bring ? |
Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2022 at 7:54pm
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TAX Write off ------------- If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere. If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY |
Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2022 at 9:01pm
Maybe the Deere costs less to keep running even with that relatively minor repair? Maybe he’d buy a second Deere in a heartbeat if he found the right deal? Maybe he has a lot more actual farming experience than your pot stirring punk butt. ------------- 8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760 |
Posted By: Adam Stratton
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2022 at 9:16pm
| There was also a decent enough L2 on purple wave with a 24'header "last ran 2 years ago" that only brought 1800 together. Hard to tell sometimes. |
Posted By: Luke R.
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2022 at 5:48am
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I just bought 2 L2's off of Big Iron a month ago for under $4000. One had a 6 row corn head that was a one owner machine and the other one had a decent 15' bean head. Both had great running 426's in them and we drove them home 65 miles with not one issue. I was bidding on the one with the corn head and since the other was at the same farm, they were going cheap enough i thought, so i just kept hitting the bid button and boom they are in my yard!! ------------- 4-7030's,170G,220FWA,3-220's,210,D21II,D21I industrial,2-200's,3-190's,175D,2-D19D's,D19G,WD45,WD,CA,2-UCont.,5015FWA,917,B110,Gleaner F |
Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2022 at 8:52am
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Luke, I've got to get down and visit you guys this summer! |
Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2022 at 5:05pm
Was that the one that had grain still in the bin? |
Posted By: Adam Stratton
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2022 at 10:35pm
| Yes. That caught my eye too |
Posted By: JohnColo
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2022 at 1:12am
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Heck, if there was 50 bushels of grain in the bin, that paid for half the machine! |
Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2022 at 8:29am
| The grain was there to hide the rotten floor.... |
Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2022 at 8:47am
| Maybe the grain caused the rotten floor haha |
Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2022 at 9:25am
Either way a good hint to run. Doubt the guy left it there for the heck of it. Betting it plays into why it was for sale. ------------- 8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760 |
Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2022 at 10:08am
| I’m sure it was. That would be my first question when I called the seller. |
Posted By: Dan Hauter
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2022 at 12:08pm
| Holy Toledo, Batman! As for speculation: New combines are priced completely out of the reach of a medium to small size farmer. So are most used combines. The old Gleaner conventional combines are reliable, comparatively easy to work on, parts are still available, and $22,000 is CHEAP compared to any newer used combine on the market. And if the old Gleaner is in good shape it's a good buy. |
Posted By: Daehler
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2022 at 4:09pm
That's not always the case. That combine was at K State hence the reason for low hours. I don't see how someone could say the bottom of the bin was bad in a shed kept machine. Hard telling why the left the milo in it. I didn't look at the thing in person but I've studied pictures pretty darn hard and can tell if it's a t**d or not. That combine wasn't a t**d. Biggest issue would be dryrot of rubber on it. The 9170 that sold there was probably the cleanest nicest original tractor you could find for one of those models. I'd say the school just need to update equipment or the program changed. ------------- 8070FWA,7080 BlackBelly, 7045,2 200s,D19,D17,G, WD,45,UC,7 AC mowers and lots more! "IT TAKES 3 JD's TO OUT DO AN ALLIS, 2 TO MATCH IT IN THE FIELD AND 1 FOR PARTS!" |
Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2022 at 5:37pm
You called the "rolled-under" front axle a "MINOR REPAIR" ?? Yes, I know who you are  !! |
Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2022 at 5:51pm
There "used to be" an outfit in Pennsylvania that only sold combines, his F3's were pretty pricy if memory serves
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Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2022 at 8:34pm
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Freed 2 questions 1) What’s your hard on against Deere? They must be doing something right they are only major ag manufacturer to not have been bought out or merged. Nothing against Allis but even if you had last one off the line it’s over 36 years old. New Deere’s are rolling off the line daily. I like my Allis’s but after a certain point it’s time to move on. 2) How do you know how long it took to fix the snapped axle or how much it cost? Honestly a long day for 2 guys to take it apart and a another day to put it together. Cribbing and jacking it on the worked ground without it shifting was the hard part. As far as cost let’s say 50% of having the dropbox rebuilt on the Blue Steiger or replacing rear axle on the Steiger after it cracked the casting that holds the main bearing in the rear end. Another way to rationalize it is was MUCH MUCH cheaper than firing ring and jug work on the Kraut can was. I got a buddy that put close to $25,000 in his kraut can before trading it off. ------------- 8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760 |
Posted By: JohnColo
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2022 at 11:33pm
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As far as I know, Gleaners are rolling off the assembly line every day too! |
Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2022 at 7:05am
Gleaners are but Allis tractors are not. ------------- 8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760 |
Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2022 at 6:25pm
PLEASE quit while you "might" be ahead !!
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Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2022 at 6:49pm
For some reason KEITERS was the name of the combine meca ??
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Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2022 at 6:57pm
Maybe you should stop stirring the pot especially when you don’t know what your talking about. ------------- 8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760 |
Posted By: JohnColo
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2022 at 1:13am
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This topic was started talking about a Gleaner Combine selling for $22,000. Since this is an Allis Forum, I'm pretty sure most all the members know Allis tractors are no longer in production. |
Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2022 at 7:20am
Yes but Freed has a hard on against Deere. My point was those of us that got 20-30 years ahead of them need to look at other options. When it comes to articulated tractors it’s pretty much Deere or CNH. ------------- 8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760 |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2022 at 7:58am
True…but most of the guys here have a hard on for Deere. |
Posted By: Sherman Farms
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2022 at 8:43am
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All Agco tractors, combines, and equipment are Allis-Gleaner built. ------------- B, C, RC, 3 wc,2 wd,3 wd45, d15, d17, d19, d21, 190, 440, 7040, 918 backhoe, 12 roto balers, 7 60 combines, 40, 66,2 72,90 super, sp100, Gleaner E, F3, 3 L2, R62, and much more |