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Topic: Why Are Meat Prices So High?
Posted By: nella(Pa)
Subject: Why Are Meat Prices So High?
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2021 at 9:21am

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Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2021 at 11:18am
Don't we have laws against monopolies in the US?
The answer is yes, but they won't do anything about it because of the money changing hands...


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Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2021 at 11:46am
Beef is crazy ! Those guys who got 3 million together and are gonna start a meat packing plant -in my opinion - will have a rude awaking - first off 3 million isnt that much nowadays - and the 4 big meat packer will put the squeeze on them 


Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2021 at 4:47pm
IMO, the guys in the sewer section have all of the answers, it's the current resident of the WH for some reason (wrong) Confused ??
Yes, my wife is almost ready to go out and get the "value" meals at ANY local fast food place because it will be cheaper than buying/preparing store-bought meat Ouch


Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2021 at 4:54pm
Buy our meat on the hoof, pay a Farmer for those portions of an animal(1/4 or 1/2) and then pay a Processor to kill/butcher and package our stored meat.  Current cost of Beef in freezer less than $7.50/lb for ANY and ALL, for a 1/2 hog paid right at $6.80/lb but have a ham and some hocks being cured/smoked so will be a little extra for that.  Chickens we have seven in freezer, $8.50 EACH, raised, laid eggs, got to a low egg production and were slaughtered then processed and packaged/rapid frozen, around four lbs each.

I buy as LITTLE as have to at a 'Store'.


Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2021 at 5:01pm
Originally posted by DMiller DMiller wrote:

Buy our meat on the hoof, pay a Farmer for those portions of an animal(1/4 or 1/2) and then pay a Processor to kill/butcher and package our stored meat.  Current cost of Beef in freezer less than $7.50/lb for ANY and ALL, for a 1/2 hog paid right at $6.80/lb but have a ham and some hocks being cured/smoked so will be a little extra for that.  Chickens we have seven in freezer, $8.50 EACH, raised, laid eggs, got to a low egg production and were slaughtered then processed and packaged/rapid frozen, around four lbs each.

I buy as LITTLE as have to at a 'Store'.
 
Not everyone in the nation is able to do as you can Embarrassed


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2021 at 5:04pm
IMO, the guys in the sewer section have all of the answers, it's the current resident of the WH for some reason...Thumbs Up   Thumbs Up   Clap   Clap

I TOTALLY AGREE FreeGas !


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Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2021 at 5:08pm
[QUOTE=steve(ill)]IMO, the guys in the sewer section have all of the answers, it's the current resident of the WH for some reason...Thumbs Up   Thumbs Up   Clap   Clap

I TOTALLY AGREE FreeGas !
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You left out a word or two STEVIE WinkWink


Posted By: Red Bank
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2021 at 5:08pm
Originally posted by DMiller DMiller wrote:

Buy our meat on the hoof, pay a Farmer for those portions of an animal(1/4 or 1/2) and then pay a Processor to kill/butcher and package our stored meat.  Current cost of Beef in freezer less than $7.50/lb for ANY and ALL, for a 1/2 hog paid right at $6.80/lb but have a ham and some hocks being cured/smoked so will be a little extra for that.  Chickens we have seven in freezer, $8.50 EACH, raised, laid eggs, got to a low egg production and were slaughtered then processed and packaged/rapid frozen, around four lbs each.

I buy as LITTLE as have to at a 'Store'.

We buy our beef the same way. And we get our sausage fresh picked up our order of sausage last week. Try to support local farmers as much as we can.


Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2021 at 5:38pm
I completely understand the prices of local places - straight off the farm slaughter houses , those prices are always higher - the common people go to the store and get it alot cheaper than the I know what i got farm price- and move so much more - the grocery stores and big packers got the market cornered already   


Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2021 at 6:16pm
Freegas, anyone can get on the lists, get local meat locally processed, happens nearly everywhere.
Just have to have freezer and space to store.


Posted By: JW in MO
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2021 at 6:46pm
There is a law suit here in MO, local cattle company built there own processing plant, (cost millions), and had meat in the Springfield area HyVee stores. All the sudden get told their meat doesn’t pass their standards and pulled all their beef off the shelves but won’t tell or show what standard they don’t meet. Racketeering is suspected from a major chicken company.

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Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2021 at 8:33pm
We drive to Western KS every year to pick up half a beef and a whole hog for the freezers.
Saw a brisket for $115.00 at the store not long ago. AOC says Cow farts are melting the ice burgs so someone has to pay.


Posted By: dr p
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2021 at 8:40pm
Sold an open 2 year old Guernsey heifer last week. Decent size, weighed 1135. Check to me was nearly 1100. Problem is I figure my cost into her was close to 1400.


Posted By: Lars(wi)
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2021 at 9:54pm
Did you have a bull with her, or A.I.?

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Posted By: Randy WI
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2021 at 4:14am
Why don't you cut your own meat we bone out our venison would do the same thing with a beef just a bit bigger.  Randy


Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2021 at 4:45am
Have done that in the past, so much easier/cleaner and less time for ME to be doing it, to allow a Shop with the saws, wrapping systems and end disposal of remnants services do it.

Wife is doing a Brisket for Xmas Dinner(Just us and SIL) where that was considerably LESS than that $115 seen in a store!!!


Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2021 at 6:46am
Originally posted by DMiller DMiller wrote:

Buy our meat on the hoof, pay a Farmer for those portions of an animal(1/4 or 1/2) and then pay a Processor to kill/butcher and package our stored meat.  Current cost of Beef in freezer less than $7.50/lb for ANY and ALL, for a 1/2 hog paid right at $6.80/lb but have a ham and some hocks being cured/smoked so will be a little extra for that.  Chickens we have seven in freezer, $8.50 EACH, raised, laid eggs, got to a low egg production and were slaughtered then processed and packaged/rapid frozen, around four lbs each.

I buy as LITTLE as have to at a 'Store'.
Near $7.50 per pound?!Shocked  Dang, I need to raise my prices!!!  I was going to raise a little, but buying freezer beef from me nets out approximately $4.25-ish.


Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2021 at 12:54pm
Freedguy you need a new hobby you can raise and process your own meat since the price of things bothers you so. Start with a hog the recipe saw that cuts wood will split a hog. But since you don't think anything on u tube is true, I don't know how you will could learn. But the yuppies out here my one son hangs with where starting to want to learn meat processing so I think there is a lot somewhere on the net.


I know more fun to make fun of those of us you think don't know anything. But learning rather than criticizing could get lots of new friends, and money in your pocket.  


Posted By: allisbred
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2021 at 1:31pm
We have grain finished beef for sale, quarter, half, whole, or even standing if you want to process. Can pick your steer if you take a whole one and then have your choice of black or black/white faced baldy. I will say that processing charges have went up a few cents on last groups killed. Don’t think they will ever drop. Local butcher dates are currently in 2023 if not booked.


Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2021 at 5:46pm
Originally posted by Tbone95 Tbone95 wrote:

Originally posted by DMiller DMiller wrote:

Buy our meat on the hoof, pay a Farmer for those portions of an animal(1/4 or 1/2) and then pay a Processor to kill/butcher and package our stored meat.  Current cost of Beef in freezer less than $7.50/lb for ANY and ALL, for a 1/2 hog paid right at $6.80/lb but have a ham and some hocks being cured/smoked so will be a little extra for that.  Chickens we have seven in freezer, $8.50 EACH, raised, laid eggs, got to a low egg production and were slaughtered then processed and packaged/rapid frozen, around four lbs each.

I buy as LITTLE as have to at a 'Store'.
Near $7.50 per pound?!Shocked  Dang, I need to raise my prices!!!  I was going to raise a little, but buying freezer beef from me nets out approximately $4.25-ish.

Paid around that to the raiser of the beef, the second amount is for processing by a local Meat Cutter.  Half is cut out of fresh slaughtered animal, is dry aged two weeks at the kill shop then moved to butchering area, the beef is cut to order for two quarters(Mix of all the meat of one half) or a full half, then is Vacuum packed and sent to a FastFreeze freezer where sits until picked up.  We get more steaks and burger where another couple gets Burger and roast sized pieces for larger family meals(Have Kids).  All comes out of one animal.


Posted By: plummerscarin
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2021 at 6:57pm
A farmer north of here runs a game ranch. Sells hog hunts for $450, weapon of choice. They are processed on premises ready for the freezer. He does not cure any meat. Accountant and I have learned to cure meat here. Not particularly difficult except slicing and wrapping bacon. Have eaten little beef for some time as venison has become red meat of choice.


Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2021 at 7:33pm
Originally posted by Ray54 Ray54 wrote:

Freedguy you need a new hobby you can raise and process your own meat since the price of things bothers you so. Start with a hog the recipe saw that cuts wood will split a hog. But since you don't think anything on u tube is true, I don't know how you will could learn. But the yuppies out here my one son hangs with where starting to want to learn meat processing so I think there is a lot somewhere on the net.


I know more fun to make fun of those of us you think don't know anything. But learning rather than criticizing could get lots of new friends, and money in your pocket.  


Considering he’s the all knowing super farmer it will be easy for him.  


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Posted By: dr p
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2021 at 7:40pm
Lars, had her bred once ai. Lost it after 4 months. Got her bred back with a bull and she lost it again. Got too many heifers as it is


Posted By: NDBirdman
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2021 at 9:27pm
Butchered 2 deer this year, cost, time.  Retrieved arrows so no cost there.  Lots of steaks and stew meat in freezer.  Cost, a bottle of peppermint schnapps to keep us warm while butchering.  Picked up box of shoulders at store, out the door $88/1.50/lb.  Mixed with 50lb venison, spent afternoon enjoying schnapps and good friends.  Got enough meat to last til next years season.  Don't eat over priced store meat, not even chicken, we raise our own.  If I looked, could probably find an old milk cow for more meat but honestly, don't need it.



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Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2021 at 7:29am
Originally posted by DMiller DMiller wrote:

Originally posted by Tbone95 Tbone95 wrote:

Originally posted by DMiller DMiller wrote:

Buy our meat on the hoof, pay a Farmer for those portions of an animal(1/4 or 1/2) and then pay a Processor to kill/butcher and package our stored meat.  Current cost of Beef in freezer less than $7.50/lb for ANY and ALL, for a 1/2 hog paid right at $6.80/lb but have a ham and some hocks being cured/smoked so will be a little extra for that.  Chickens we have seven in freezer, $8.50 EACH, raised, laid eggs, got to a low egg production and were slaughtered then processed and packaged/rapid frozen, around four lbs each.

I buy as LITTLE as have to at a 'Store'.
Near $7.50 per pound?!Shocked  Dang, I need to raise my prices!!!  I was going to raise a little, but buying freezer beef from me nets out approximately $4.25-ish.

Paid around that to the raiser of the beef, the second amount is for processing by a local Meat Cutter.  Half is cut out of fresh slaughtered animal, is dry aged two weeks at the kill shop then moved to butchering area, the beef is cut to order for two quarters(Mix of all the meat of one half) or a full half, then is Vacuum packed and sent to a FastFreeze freezer where sits until picked up.  We get more steaks and burger where another couple gets Burger and roast sized pieces for larger family meals(Have Kids).  All comes out of one animal.
Yeah, I know how it works, been around it for 50 years.  Sure am glad you thought I needed a lesson though.

My price to customers is $2.50 per pound hanging weight.  Butcher gets $30 to slaughter, and about $0.45 per pound hanging weight to cut and wrap.  

THAT'S WHY I SAID NETS $4.25.


Posted By: dr p
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2021 at 7:02pm
Problem here is finding a butcher. Guess here are so backed up you have to make an appointment to process the pigs before you buy the piglets


Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2021 at 3:39am
Is true there Dr P, even for our beef and hogs we had to be scheduled on a hard list some three months prior as the number of meat cutters is dwindling, shops are closing up in every state.


Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2021 at 7:44am
Originally posted by dr p dr p wrote:

Problem here is finding a butcher. Guess here are so backed up you have to make an appointment to process the pigs before you buy the piglets
Yep, I had the 2021 year booked by April, will book the whole 2022 year in January.  Fall of 2019 I put 3 perfectly nice beef on a trailer to an auction because I had no takers.  Now sold out over a year in advance!  Crazy.  Basically the same number of butchers around here, just people got scared of store-meat-covid issues.  


Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2021 at 8:05am
Each year when we pick up our beef we get on the list for the following year. They give us a warning call about two weeks ahead so we can arrange and be ready.


Posted By: Wayne180d
Date Posted: 26 Dec 2021 at 8:17pm
I buy my beef from the farmer I help pay market price the day of slaughter, our steers run around 1500# and heifers a little less.  I paid 1.20# for the 1/4 and 200 processing and get about 200 to 225 pounds of meat.  So I pay around 650 dollars each year for my meat.  My calf goes in March this year and already have an appointment for next year in 2023.  All our old cows become hamburger and he sells it for 4.5 # and we can't keep up with the demand.  Raise my own turkeys, chickens, and guineas for myself and just buy a little pork and bacon.


Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2021 at 7:16am
Are you sure you get over 200 pounds of meat?  That is one helluva yield ratio.

65% hoof to hang on a 1500 pound critter =975.  

65% hang to package of 975 = 634 pounds.

634 / 4 = 158 pounds.  And 65% yields on each step is GOOD, I usually figure closer to 60%.  My thought is you are getting 200-225 hanging weight.  (975/4 = 243).  Deboning and trimming gets you down to package weight.



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