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Topic: 816 for sale
Posted By: Acdiesel
Subject: 816 for sale
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2021 at 11:06am
not mine, seen on Facebook market place.  $2000.00 needs engine work.

link: https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/4390565174355812/" rel="nofollow - https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/4390565174355812/


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D19 diesel,D17 diesel SER.3 D14 NF,D14 WF, D15 SER.II wf
D15 SER.2 DIESEL,D15 ser.II nf
D12 SER.I, D10 Ser.II
2-720'S

Gmc,caterpillar
I'm a pharmacist (farm assist) with a PHD (post hole digger)



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Posted By: Eric B
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2021 at 7:36pm
This sounds like a good deal for someone within reasonable distance. A 248 or 236 Perkins shouldn't be too hard to find for reasonable cost.

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Currently- WD,WC,3WF's,2 D14's B. Previously- I 600,TL745,200,FL9,FR12,H3,816 LBH. Earth has no sorrow that Heaven cannot heal!


Posted By: orangeman
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2021 at 9:19pm
Lots of OEM Perkins engine parts available for either the 4-236 amd 4-248 engines.   A good project for someone close to Michigan.   

Orangeman


Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2021 at 5:03am
Perkins was bought up by Caterpillar, there are parts availability issues developing as Cat wants to eliminate the brand.  Now considered as Perkipillar.


Posted By: orangeman
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2021 at 9:00am
This link might be of help - see here:  https://shop.perkins.com/?gclid=Cj0KCQiAkNiMBhCxARIsAIDDKNUM0GjxBhtxUe5cSFRRaJOHgng1Ii6mHHk0EyVAZRp-6CvZRDeMOTIaAnnYEALw_wcB" rel="nofollow - https://shop.perkins.com/?gclid=Cj0KCQiAkNiMBhCxARIsAIDDKNUM0GjxBhtxUe5cSFRRaJOHgng1Ii6mHHk0EyVAZRp-6CvZRDeMOTIaAnnYEALw_wcB

It would be of interest to know specifically what Caterpillar has stated about eliminating the Perkins engine brand is this something developing from newsreleases?  

With the volume of engines that Perkins has produced worldwide, a manuever to eliminate the brand and related parts would seem contrary to making profit.   But then again, few of us are corporate bean counters.   

This link shines a bit more light on Caterpillar and Perkins - https://www.caterpillar.com/en/news/caterpillarNews/h/20-millionth-engine-rolls-off-the-production-line-in-peterborough-uk.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.caterpillar.com/en/news/caterpillarNews/h/20-millionth-engine-rolls-off-the-production-line-in-peterborough-uk.html

~ Orangeman


Posted By: Eric B
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2021 at 12:07pm
Orangeman, thanks for those links! It doesn't look like they are about to be phased out any time soon. They've certainly had a good reputation and with the volume of production they've got to bring Caterpillar some good $$ returns.

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Currently- WD,WC,3WF's,2 D14's B. Previously- I 600,TL745,200,FL9,FR12,H3,816 LBH. Earth has no sorrow that Heaven cannot heal!


Posted By: allisbred
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2021 at 3:52pm
What transmission did Allis use on these?


Posted By: Eric B
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2021 at 4:02pm
The forward reverser is a Borg Warner and as for the 4 speed standard behind it I don't know but it would be a well known brand... it looks a lot like what you would see in a one ton truck except with no reverse gear. Someone on here will probably post what it is.

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Currently- WD,WC,3WF's,2 D14's B. Previously- I 600,TL745,200,FL9,FR12,H3,816 LBH. Earth has no sorrow that Heaven cannot heal!


Posted By: orangeman
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2021 at 7:58am
See Link here: https://www.allischalmers.com/forum/ac-715-backhoe_topic15726.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.allischalmers.com/forum/ac-715-backhoe_topic15726.html

~ Orangeman

I'll check my AC books, to confirm that the 816 used the Borg Warner - T19 transmission.  


Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2021 at 11:31am
Just rebuilt my Fwd / Rev box on my 715B-D and got parts from a Marine Supply co as they used the box on boats 
816 specs 
https://www.tractordata.com/backhoe-loader/000/2/5/257-allis-chalmers-816b.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.tractordata.com/backhoe-loader/000/2/5/257-allis-chalmers-816b.html

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