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D12/14 front hydraulic pump questions

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Topic: D12/14 front hydraulic pump questions
Posted By: KMAG
Subject: D12/14 front hydraulic pump questions
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2021 at 11:03am
I was looking at a D12 with a hydraulic oil tank between the distributor housing and oil filter. It connects to a pulley driven pump off the crank just under the distributor drive and has lines running to rear of tractor.

Was the setup better/worse than rear pump setups? Redundant? Owner didn't know anything about it. Thanks.

Here is a pic of the setup on another tractor.





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Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2021 at 12:38pm
That's be a 'live' hydraulic setup..as long as engine is running, you got hydraulics. With the regular setup, push the clutch in you lose hydraulics.


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Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2021 at 12:40pm
That was used on many of the earlier D10/12 tractors when a "Traction booster" system wasn't needed, just a lift/lower system. Such as when a tractor was to be primarily only used for cultivating. That pump system also was used to power the power assist steering offered as a option on D10/12 tractors.

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Posted By: Fred in Pa
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2021 at 12:59pm
Picture above is a original engine gear driven pump .Used on early serial # D 10 12 ,Rear pump where used on later models and if used hard for PTO work would rip splines off drive hub and shaft at flywheel and u lose  power to rear of tractor for PTO n Hydraulics 

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