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Topic: D19 paint question
Posted By: Bryan
Subject: D19 paint question
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2010 at 12:27pm
Just wanted to get some opinions on paint. Is ppg better paint or should I go with dupont . Any pro's or con's of the two. I'm leaning towards the ppg. Any thoughts on the two.



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Posted By: Bee
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2010 at 1:11pm
Can comment on the PPG.  The Primer has a catalyst, mix it up and wait for a 15 minute induction period then spray.  Can recoat after five minutes.  Then have a two to three day grace period to shoot the topcoat (can't recall which).  If you wait longer you will have to sand and respray a primer coat or the topcoat won't adhere.  Two parts primer to one part catalyst. 

Need to wait 30 minutes after applying the primer to shoot the top coat.  The top coat has a hardener and a reducer.  The paint supplier will supply the correct reducer based upon temperature range.  The ratio is 8 parts paint to one parts each of hardener and reducer.

Both the primer and top coat went on easy.  I used a cheap gravity feed gun with 40psi @ 6 cfm.  1.4mm - 1.5mm nozzle will shoot both.

I estimate about 1/2 gal of each to shoot a tractor and total cost should be around 260$  Both available in quarts or gallons if more needed. 

Both Primer and topcoat will clean up easily with acetone.

Fumes and contact with your skin are dangerous!   Your paint supplier can educate you on respirator and safety requirements.

The finish is a nice gloss.  You can wait for the paint to cure and sand and buff this product to a high gloss finish.   Prep is everything.
PPG number 60080

    

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Bob, North Carolina

1949 B


Posted By: Butch(OH)
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2010 at 8:20pm
Both companies have several lines of paint and as long as you stay within a given price range/quality there is little to chose from between them, it's almost like asking which is better? a Ford or a Chevy? I use PPG because we have a good local dealer who helped me get into doing things the right way. If you know nothing a good dealer, not a brand is who you should use IMO.
 
I dont panic and run around in circles with a white flag when it comes to personal safety in the shop but will differ with Bee on the level of personal protection needed to apply hardened and other two part paints like epoxy. IF ISOs killed instantly we probably would even be able to get the stuff, problem is ISOs kill slowly and once the effects hit you your are stuck with them for life. Last I knew there was no approved respirators for ISO's and supplied breathing air was the only fail safe protection. Past that it's not only your lungs you have to worry about, it also soaks through your skin especialy mucous membranes. This can be documented many places via Google search of ISO health hazards.



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