d-14 no start
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Topic: d-14 no start
Posted By: tractorboy
Subject: d-14 no start
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2021 at 4:55pm
Went to start my d-14 been sitting bout a month and a half. Barely started then ran poorly, let run for 20 min. thinking it might clear up -no luck. Thinking it was a gas problem I drained tank and cleaned carb, no luck . Since the coil looked old as me [63], I took a newer coil off a running ca. I've got juice to ign. side of coil but nowhere else, points were replaced last summer. What do I check next Thanks in advance, Yes I am a parts changer guilty as charged!!!! keith so va
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Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2021 at 5:07pm
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I'd try a new condenser next.I just went thru a similar thing with my Oliver 66 tried about everything I could think of after digging into it turned out to be the intake part of the manifold had warped and wouldn't set exactly flush against the head.Good used manifold off ebay back in action. |
Posted By: tractorboy
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2021 at 5:09pm
| Forgot to mention pos. ground , I hooked up the coil like my 17 pos. ground it's 12 volt |
Posted By: Jim.ME
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2021 at 6:53am
| Points can/will oxidize while setting. Try folding a dollar bill up and rubbing between the contacts to clean them. |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2021 at 7:28am
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Dang what's a dollar bill ??? Up here I'd have to use a 'fiver' ! $1 and 2$ are coins, sigh. agree though, LIGHTLY clean the points, I use 1,000 grit paper( have lots....). matchbook works good...hmm, do THOSE still exist ??? Jay ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: john(MI)
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2021 at 6:24pm
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You can use copy paper the clean the points. Did you take off the sediment bowl and clean it? Did you take the breather hose off of the carb and give it a shot of ether and try it? Check the air cleaner for a mouse house. ------------- D14, D17, 5020, 612H, CASE 446 |
Posted By: Fred in Pa
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2021 at 6:01am
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Replace the points with Napa points and condenser ,or Blue streak . Any others are junk .Then start checking for other problems . ------------- He who dies with the most toys is, nonetheless ,still dead. If all else fails ,Read all that is PRINTED. |
Posted By: tractorboy
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2021 at 4:09am
| If you put power to the ign. side of the coil , shouldn't the other side have power ???? Thanks, keith |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2021 at 5:51am
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yes, but ONLY when the points are open... you have to rotate the engine a bit to turn the dist shaft to get the point an a 'lobe',which 'opens' the points. with tractor in neutral, you give a quick 'start' with the key. more often than not, the points magically go to 'close' not to 'open',but eventually you'll get them 'open'. otherway is to use a big,flat screwdriver in the bellhousing hole to turn the engine. ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: tractorboy
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2021 at 11:24am
| Thanks Jay, after removing the points I think something was touching where it wasn't supposed to. I checked it with a test light, made a little bend in it ,rechecked it with light & started right up!! Everyone says Blue Streak ign. but every Napa I go to has only Echilin on the box & looks cheap!!!! |
Posted By: Jim.ME
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2021 at 12:25pm
| BWD, Niehoff and Echlin are all Standard Motor Products companies. SMP is the parent company of Standard/Blue Streak. You just need to check the grade. I don't know about the others but Standard, at least, is marketing many products in a "trade version" to be price competitive. Here is how they say it: "Standard T-Series is a competitively priced line containing some of the most popular part numbers to help you meet your market needs. The Standard T-Series is a fit whenever a commercially acceptable product is called for." Most of these parts use the same part number as the premium ones with a "T" added as a suffix at the end. I stay with the premium Standard Blue Streak or Echlin. |
Posted By: Fred in Pa
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2021 at 2:21pm
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You can't tell by looks if a condenser is junk you have to test them . ------------- He who dies with the most toys is, nonetheless ,still dead. If all else fails ,Read all that is PRINTED. |