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Topic: 200 with 8 bolt hubs

Posted By: 190xt MN
Subject: 200 with 8 bolt hubs
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2021 at 9:43am

I saw a picture of a 200 the other day that had 8 bolt front hubs. I was wondering if the cast halves that slide into the front axel housing with the spindle attached from a 210 or 220 would fit in a 200/190xt housing? Or can the entire axel assembly be interchanged? I’m looking at putting a quick tach loader on a 190xt 3, and was just curious if the heavier steering spindles were something that could be changed to make the tractor more loaded friendly. Thanks in advance for any replies!

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Posted By: jiminnd
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2021 at 9:45am

Is that was the one on U tube it had a 210 or220 front end on it, if not just disregard this comment.

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Posted By: 190xt MN
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2021 at 9:49am

Yup that’s the one. So you figure it has the whole front axle assembly under it?

Posted By: 190xt MN
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2021 at 10:12am

Had a side by side pic of a 220 and a 200. I see the difference! I wonder how much has to be changed to get that heavy axel under there.

Posted By: TramwayGuy
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2021 at 10:14am

Was it perhaps an industrial version?

Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2021 at 10:40am

I've installed a 210/220 axle under a 185 and really the only serious fabrication work was the rear axle wishbone pivot pin and bracket. I cut the front pin socket off the old axle and rewelded it to the top of the 210/220 axle. That was easy.

Posted By: HD6GTOM
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2021 at 4:17pm

They defiantly need a heavier front axle with a loader on them.

Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2021 at 6:20pm

Ive had a loader on a One Ninety- and 200- 6060 in my opinion- the loaders need to be matched to the tractor , too many times Ive seen a 200 - loader on it with a 7 ft bucket- thats way too big to accomplish anything except tear up a tractor, i have a 6060 with a 4 ft bucket on it and its a perfect fit, just my 2 cents, guy i used to work for had a 5050 with a 4 ft bucket and it worked great , never tore nothing up

Posted By: 190xt MN
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2021 at 6:49pm

Yeah, there’s no point in getting crazy. It’s better to match the loader to the machine. Also, and this is coming for someone who runs heavy equipment for a living, no farm tractor with a loader is a piece of construction equipment. You have to operate within the equipments limits.

Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2021 at 7:15pm

I hear ya 190 xt, Im on a construction site every day running a Lull and equipment- but they are made for this- other than AC farm equipment

Posted By: GregStremel
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2021 at 7:25pm

Regarding the strength of the 190 axle, over 30 years ago we put an axle on a WD that we used ever since as a dedicated loader tractor. The rear tires are full of calcium and a cast weight is on each Side of the rear axle.

The heaviest loads have been a 20 foot header for our M and a pallet of quickcrete. That weighs a little over 3,000 lbs. We only lift these loads on level and flat ground. The front tires squat and there is not much traction on the rear but we have had no problems all these years.

We don’t need to lift the head anymore and we purchased a fork truck to lift the occasional pallet of quickcrete. The usual load now is a seed probox (2,500#) and 5x6 round bales.

Posted By: 190xt MN
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2021 at 8:56pm

Well then for the little bit I will do, the stock axel will be more then enough!!

Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2021 at 9:45pm

My Customer always broke spindles on the 180-200 style axle as the loader was really too large. The axle frame wasn't the weakness, the spindles were, and front wheels had to be kept TIGHT with only six bolts.

Posted By: 190xt MN
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2021 at 10:15pm

Dr. What model of loader did that customer have?

Posted By: KJCHRIS
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2021 at 12:47am

I've had a Westendorf WL40 w/ 72" bucket, bale spear and pallet forks on my 200 since mid 80's. No problems, but then I don't ram n jam it around. Most recent heavy lift on it was to unload and set a 1000 gal LPG tank with gauge showing 15 - 20%. It really made the 10:00x16" tires squat, even with 40 psi in them. "HAD" fluid in rear and 2 outside wheel weights/ side, BUT replaced the bad tubes & rusty rims in Dec '20 so no more fluid.

We loaded over 1000 6 x 5 round bales 2 winters ago, that sold on an estate auction 1 mile away.

You'll Just need to remember it's a 40- 50 year old outfit AND is not a bull dozer.

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