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Adding Press Wheels to Grain Drill

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Topic: Adding Press Wheels to Grain Drill
Posted By: wjohn
Subject: Adding Press Wheels to Grain Drill
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2020 at 10:25am
Has anyone ever added press wheels to an older drill? I have a 1950s-era John Deere FB-A drill, but if something worked on an AC or any other brand of older drill it would be a similar concept.

I searched and couldn't even find any pictures of AC drills with press wheels. They did not seem to be a common option on the JD and IH drills of the time. So far I think my options are to luck into a set from another drill or a complete parts drill with them, which hasn't happened over the last couple of years, or buy some new press wheels and fabricate something similar to the original JD attachment that attaches where the foot board goes.

Our understanding of what's needed for good germination sure has come a long way from dragging covering chains.


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1939 B, 1940 B, 1941 WC, 1951 WD, 1952 CA, 1956 WD-45



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Posted By: wjohn
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2020 at 10:30am
Here's a picture of the JD press wheel attachment on a FB-B drill, which is probably identical to what would've gone on my drill. I was thinking of making something similar.




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1939 B, 1940 B, 1941 WC, 1951 WD, 1952 CA, 1956 WD-45


Posted By: Dusty MI
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2020 at 11:53am
Maybe put a hitch on the back of your drill and tow a culti-packer. 



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Posted By: JohnColo
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2020 at 1:22pm
After I plant hay/alfalfa, I roll it with what we call a mulcher, a cultipacker with rollers front and back with spring teeth in the center.  I keep the teeth up and drive at right angles to the way I plant.  Smooths the seed bed and helps germination.


Posted By: orangereborn
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2020 at 1:32pm
hope this works....


Posted By: wjohn
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2020 at 9:11pm
Originally posted by Dusty MI Dusty MI wrote:

Maybe put a hitch on the back of your drill and tow a culti-packer.

I would do that if I could even find a cultipacker around here. I'm not sure if they've just become more popular and everyone snaps them up, or if it's a regional thing and not many people used them around here to begin with, so not many around.

A cultipacker would be nice for broadcast seeding, too. The guy I worked for in high school had me broadcast Teff on his ATV and then run a cultipacker over it, and it turned out great.


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1939 B, 1940 B, 1941 WC, 1951 WD, 1952 CA, 1956 WD-45


Posted By: wjohn
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2020 at 9:19pm
Originally posted by JohnColo JohnColo wrote:

After I plant hay/alfalfa, I roll it with what we call a mulcher, a cultipacker with rollers front and back with spring teeth in the center.  I keep the teeth up and drive at right angles to the way I plant.  Smooths the seed bed and helps germination.

I know exactly what you're talking about. We referred to them as cultimulchers where I grew up. I wish I could find a halfway decent one. The guy I worked for in high school had an old John Deere that we used several times.


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1939 B, 1940 B, 1941 WC, 1951 WD, 1952 CA, 1956 WD-45


Posted By: wjohn
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2020 at 9:20pm
Originally posted by orangereborn orangereborn wrote:

hope this works....

Sure did, thanks! Can't be too many of those around.


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1939 B, 1940 B, 1941 WC, 1951 WD, 1952 CA, 1956 WD-45


Posted By: MACK
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2020 at 9:34pm
Might be best to sell what you have and buy one with press wheels.           MACK


Posted By: wjohn
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2021 at 11:17am
Originally posted by MACK MACK wrote:

Might be best to sell what you have and buy one with press wheels.           MACK

That would be another route, true. I hate to give up on this one though since it's in great shape, has the small seed box, and is a good match for my B in size.


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1939 B, 1940 B, 1941 WC, 1951 WD, 1952 CA, 1956 WD-45


Posted By: Leon B MO
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2021 at 4:48pm
Here's a "cutimulcher" in Versailes MO.
https://www.tractorhouse.com/listings/farm-equipment/for-sale/199428925/kewanee-12" rel="nofollow - KEWANEE 12 For Sale In Versailles, Missouri | TractorHouse.com
Here's one right up the road from me and I have one of these in the shed. We use it to reapair/reseed waterways. 
https://www.tractorhouse.com/listings/farm-equipment/for-sale/27185597/kewanee-12" rel="nofollow - KEWANEE 12 For Sale In Troy, Missouri | TractorHouse.com
Leon B MO


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Uncle always said "Fill the back of the shovel and the front will take care of itself".


Posted By: wjohn
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2021 at 11:03am
Originally posted by Leon B MO Leon B MO wrote:

Here's a "cutimulcher" in Versailes MO.
https://www.tractorhouse.com/listings/farm-equipment/for-sale/199428925/kewanee-12" rel="nofollow - KEWANEE 12 For Sale In Versailles, Missouri | TractorHouse.com
Here's one right up the road from me and I have one of these in the shed. We use it to reapair/reseed waterways. 
https://www.tractorhouse.com/listings/farm-equipment/for-sale/27185597/kewanee-12" rel="nofollow - KEWANEE 12 For Sale In Troy, Missouri | TractorHouse.com
Leon B MO

Those are about what I'm looking for, just hopefully not 5-6 hours away. My drill is only 7' wide so if pulling behind it I would need something a little smaller, but I may have to make that being an odd width. Alternatively doing a quick pass after seeding with a 12' packer wouldn't be that bad but it sure is nice to get things done in one pass instead of two.

I see Agrisupply has 9 1/2" wheels for $13.29 each after the bulk discount, so that might be another option if I'm willing to make something.


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1939 B, 1940 B, 1941 WC, 1951 WD, 1952 CA, 1956 WD-45


Posted By: Marlyn nwia
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2021 at 11:49am
I have all three; drag chains, press wheels and cultipacker.  If you use the cultipacker
  be sure the tongue is long enough to allow  you to turn very short.  I have
  damage packer wheels while turning too tight.



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