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Topic: Gas tank liner stuff
Posted By: LarryWC In
Subject: Gas tank liner stuff
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2010 at 2:57am
I know I've read on here where guys have had the inside of there gas tank lined with some (red) stuff.
What is it?,,and where can you get it?
Thanks in advance!


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Posted By: Jeff Z. NY
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2010 at 3:41am
The red sealer could be Glyptal.
It was made by GE to insulate wires.
GE has sold the rights to this product to another company.

There is also a tank sealer with the trade name Red-Kote but I don't know if the actual material is red.

Glyptal is oil resistant but I never tried soaking it in gas to see if gas would break it down over time.

I don't know about gas tanks but we used it inside the blocks on racing engines to seal the cast iron to let oil flow to the pan easier and not get hung up in the rough cast iron surface.

The Eastwood company sells some really good tank sealing kits.
They also sell Glyptal.

http://www.eastwood.com/glyptal-red-brush-on-1-qt.html


Posted By: Gary in Texas
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2010 at 3:55am
I think the red stuff is called RedCoat, I have not used it.  I have used POR-15, to coat the inside of my WD and Honda Goldwing fuel tanks.  Google it, that is how I found it and purchased it on line.


Posted By: Jeff Z. NY
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2010 at 4:02am
Gary, While I was having coffee I was thinking maybe he was thinking of Red-Kote so I added it to my post.
I then saw you also were thinking the same thing.



Posted By: Butch(OH)
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2010 at 7:06am
Two kinds I have used are Redcoat which is available from NAPA here and the kit from Eastwood. Eastwoods kit and intstuctions are superior but so is the price. Dont think for a minute that you can just dump the sealer in a tank, it doesnt work, take it from a short cut master,LOL. The tank must be cleaned of varnish, derusted and free of moisture before sealed.  Everything you need to do that properly is available locally.


Posted By: BennyLumpkin
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2010 at 7:09am
there is stuff from a place called KBS coatings....did my WC with it and its GREAT....looks like its Galv lined now..... http://www.kbs-coatings.com/Auto-Fuel-Tank-Sealer-Kit_p_34.html - http://www.kbs-coatings.com/Auto-Fuel-Tank-Sealer-Kit_p_34.html

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Posted By: David Maddux
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2010 at 7:49am
Google Redkote. You will get complete instructions, do it to the letter if you want success. Also available at O'reillys Auto parts. You may have to ask them to order it for you.


Posted By: Keith inMN
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2010 at 8:17am
Redkote.  Used it in a 72 Cutlass 15 years ago, still sealed.  Cub Cadet tank a few years ago, still sealed. I have even used it to seal up very pitted antique lanterns.  Good stuff, take your time with the prep work. When everything is clean and dry, you will be happy with the results for a long time.
 
No matter what you use, do it outside. The fumes are nasty.
 


Posted By: 1946WP
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2010 at 8:26am
make sure you put the plug in when using red cote, it don't come off a unpreped garage floor.


Posted By: GlenninPA
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2010 at 9:34am
the red stuff is Redcote, at NAPA. I am partial to POR 15, get the "motorcycle tank kit" and you will have everything you need to have a super quality job. All it will take is you putting your best effort into it.
 
Tank Prep is the key.


Posted By: firebrick43
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2010 at 10:35am
Listen to the "Tank prep is the Key" 

I have seen to many tank linings fail(then you are screwed) because of improper prep.  Follow the directions to the T and let the tank cure for several days before adding gas. 


I would suggest rigging up a slow turning motor of some type to a plywood platform to strap the tank onto, throwing a couple of bolts/nuts in the tank and letting it turn for a couple of hours, turn the tank 90 degrees perpendicular to the axis of rotation and turn for a few more.  Then use the chemical derusters.  The chemicals cant get flakes/heavy rust off very well. 

I personally use kreem with good results. 
I use selpak(expensive) when the tank is so bad with pinholes that you really should toss it out. 


Posted By: Stan IL&TN
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2010 at 12:40pm
Get a shop vac where you can reverse the hose so it will blow and use it to blow air through the tank to be 100% sure it is dry after cleaning out the deruster and then washing out the tank.  I let it blow for a couple of hours more even after I thought it was dry inside.  Any moisture will prevent the sealer from binding with the tank.  I let mine cure for 2 weeks before adding gas.  I have used the POR-15 kit on three tanks.  Going to do it to the Ferguson this winter also.

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Posted By: GA-IN-TEXAS
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2010 at 1:19pm
KBS COATINGS IS GREAT STUFF,USED IT IN MY 1938 MODEL B RESTORATION AND MY 1958 COUNTRY SQUIRE GARDEN TRACTOR,FOLLOW ALL DIRECTIONS AND YOU WANT HAVE A PROBLEM.


Posted By: LarryWC In
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2010 at 11:21pm
Thanks a whole bunch guys!,,,VERY helpful!!!!

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