Is Ford Broke ??
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Topic: Is Ford Broke ??
Posted By: FREEDGUY
Subject: Is Ford Broke ??
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2020 at 6:29pm
A few months ago I noticed a "sub-compact" fugly colored (primer gray/blue) car sitting on the dealers lot (new) and brushed it off as a fluke/heading into the dealers BS for a final color. Today, I saw 2 new F150's with the same color scheme-PRIMER GRAY in a Lowes parking lot  Is this the new color format in the future ??
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Posted By: NEVER green
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2020 at 6:30pm
Maybe lame like this thread? ------------- 2-8050 1-7080 6080 D-19 modelE & A 7040 R50 |
FREEDGUY wrote:Posted By: john(MI)
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2020 at 6:35pm
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White, gray and black are the most bought colors. Maybe they are experimenting with mixing some of the colors together. ------------- D14, D17, 5020, 612H, CASE 446 |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2020 at 6:46pm
FORD broke ??? Not hardly !!....... ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2020 at 7:01pm
 Have you seen the color I'm talking about John? It honestly looks the same color as my friends '72 Nova when he pulled it out of the body shop with nothing but primer gray on it  . |
Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2020 at 7:02pm
The "other" forum is missing you always green
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Posted By: Trawler II
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2020 at 7:14pm
| It’s a new color scheme, it reminds me of clay or putty. |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2020 at 7:20pm
there is no "primer grey".... there are 14 colors including 2 red, 1 blue, black, white , silver and several shades of "grey".... i dont think any are a DULL finish.2020 Ford F-150 Exterior Color OptionsMoving into 2020, The Ford F-150 says goodbye to the Ruby Red, White Platinum and Ingot Silver exterior color options. Four new colors come in to fill the void – Rapid Red, Star White, Iconic Silver and Lead Foot. See how the newest full-size Ford pickup pulls off its four new colors along with the 10 other hues carried over from 2019 in our 2020 Ford F-150 exterior color options gallery. ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2020 at 7:23pm
the newest color is called LEAD FOOT and appears to be very popular.... all of the GREY versions are popular .... ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: NEVER green
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2020 at 7:32pm
So Ford is broke because of them using something as subjective as colors that you disprove of???
------------- 2-8050 1-7080 6080 D-19 modelE & A 7040 R50 |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2020 at 7:44pm
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Sounds like the same ole same ole, to me... https://images.app.goo.gl/7R6ehV3C2FWVEKej6" rel="nofollow - https://images.app.goo.gl/7R6ehV3C2FWVEKej6 ------------- Source: Babylon Bee. Sponsored by BRAWNDO, its got what you need! |
Posted By: JohnColo
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2020 at 9:08pm
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I rent some space to a sign shop, was grading the driveway today and looked at a brand new F150, quad cab 4x4, V6, $50,211! Of course that was the sticker price, don't know what the customer paid. So I'd say Ford is doing just fine, Thank You! |
Posted By: plummerscarin
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2020 at 9:26pm
| Not just Ford offering that color |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2020 at 5:25am
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I know Ford( assume others are the same) charge MORE for red on a truck, $450 Canucks MORE. To replace my '97 F150, 4.6V8,reg cab,6.5 box,XLT it'd be $44K Canucks..plus taxes,etc.... Ford CON-vinced the guvs up here to donate 500,000,000 taxpayer bucks to 'retool' Oakville to assemble electric rides made from 'parts from 4 corners of the world'.... ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2020 at 6:11am
| A replacement (New) for the 99 F250SD I own is closer to $55k, to get a more functional F350 DRW SD is around $75 -80K and I am in NO WAY of sense or sensibility going to spend that level of change on a POSSIBLY Five to Seven Year surviving machine. The warranties are damned near worthless, the values in the machines are not there. |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2020 at 7:47am
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Govt Emissions Regs, Govt Safety Regs, Govt mileage Regs, $50 hour labor, and extensive retiree health cost all keep the price UP... People want TRUCKS so the PREMIUM PRICE is on TRUCKS and FANCY TRUCKS..... They charge whatever the public will pay. ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: john(MI)
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2020 at 11:01am
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I had to go with a used Silverado 4x4 regular cab work truck. I paid cash for it, so at least that helps. ------------- D14, D17, 5020, 612H, CASE 446 |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2020 at 12:10pm
| it's a military color |
Posted By: HD6GTOM
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2020 at 2:09pm
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According to several articals I have been reading, Yes. If Biden gets elected they are due to get millions of taxpayer dollars to get them outta the hole they are in. And I'm betting they still won't fix the many many problems they have on the roads. |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2020 at 2:29pm
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re: People want TRUCKS no, they were TOLD they 'want TRUCKS' !! The media, peer pressure, car companies, etc. It's a 'sheeple' thing.... BTW, I can't buy a 2WD Ranger here in Canada.... also there are NO reg cab, 6.5box, sml V8,XLT, 2WD, trailer pkg Fords up here in Canada last time I checked , 2 months ago.... ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2020 at 4:41pm
| Only US areas I know of with lots of 2WD trucks is TX, MS, AL, AZ and NM |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2020 at 4:43pm
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well, some people are stupid and can be talked into anything... I KNOW what i want... It was a F150, 4 x 4, crew cab with front bucket seats and half of the upgrades.... You look around and see what is available.. Buy a few years old and you can get almost all of the "upgrades" for nothing.. "MOST" people that are buying a new truck get all the BENNIES unless your buying a work truck.......... heated seats, tilt wheel, LCD display, dual heat, etc, etc... do i need it ??? NO... if it comes on the truck, im not throwing it off. ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2020 at 5:11pm
I found out today that you are correct, saw a Jeep Grand Cherokee in "PRIMER"
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Posted By: Crewchief
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2020 at 5:28pm
I know what U'all mean. Nearly had a "Stroke" last time I priced a new 1,,back N 2018.It's such a real 'joy",,,when Me,and my Dog Maggie get the "73" out 4 a ride 2 check up on my Parents on Friday's. ------------- 1952 B 1950 Ferguson TO-2O |
Posted By: john(MI)
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2020 at 7:49pm
You know, I was thinking it would look good with some black camo splotches on there. The could call it City Camo! ------------- D14, D17, 5020, 612H, CASE 446 |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2020 at 12:25am
| just as well John... they are just city vehicles anyway! |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2020 at 5:29am
| Jay, that’s BS. Just because you don’t spend money doesn’t mean others don’t. |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2020 at 5:47am
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Tbone Find me either heck BOTH of the new trucks I posted about , here in Canada, and I'll buy them AND give you 1000 Canucks as a 'finder's fee'..or my 3 D-14s. ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2020 at 6:36am
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Not talking about that, talking about your "sheeple" comment. What's the media got to gain or lose? If you tell me the media has an agenda in politics, well no kidding, we're in agreement. But in vehicles? Why? Pretty sure Ford has to pay for the advertisements played. "Blame" Ford marketing? So what, that's their job, to make money for the company. I suppose your peer pressure thing is somewhat valid. But what do you drive and why? Me, I prefer cars, not trucks. I USE a truck at the farm when/because I have to. But as for style, look, drive, handling, comfort, insurance, mileage, I much much prefer a car over a truck. Now the "American" car companies aren't hardly building cars, just crossovers and trucks. I mean, I really don't want a Mustang (actually I'd love one, not to practical of a daily driver December-March!). So if I want to stick with driving a car, going to have to go....gulp...Foreign! |
Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2020 at 7:30am
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I have a well worn 2010 Chevy Impala I use for a Daily Driver. Is OK, and as noted insurance is cheaper mileage is better but I am getting to where no longer need or have any value in multiple machines. I drive to/from town for misc materials, could use the farm pickup for that as the fuel and maintenance use will not really require vast changes or extreme money. Car does have better enclosed cargo space where the truck has better large bulky item space. Is all about trade offs, could theoretically await wife to come home from work to putter for small stuff or grocer items in our other car a SUV, most anything/everything is not an absolute must have now. When I get my project truck done there will be little need for the Farm Truck except going to the lumber yard for a box of #10 wood screws or two sheets plywood in it as would be excessive, yet still cannot justify the number of machines we currently own. Wife keeps a SUV or we trade it for a Half Ton 4WD pickup in near future for her daily driver(7 mi one way) and have the Large Truck for trailerable needs, would be able to resist a run for a small box of screws or minimal lumber until she returned home for the day or plan up for weekend. Will retain the motorcycle for joy ride jaunts, not practical for much of anything but fun.
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Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2020 at 7:43am
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'sheeple' can get conned into ANYTHING.... try buying a 4 door station wagon...THAT used to be THE family car for hauling kids,groceries, camping etc..... over the years 'they' very cleverly have 'transfomed' the usefulness of a $2000 CAR into a HUGE friggin 4 door ,4WD, tall $80,000 pickup ! As for Mustangs, I've had 3 ( two ragtops, one FB) and still have mom's hardtop. I drove all yearround, never had a problem in 4-6" of snow either. I can't easily get into any car today(funny how 2 missing discs do that), lett alone get OUT of them, so my choices are limited to trucks. Kinda nice having a full frame underneath too ! What I don't understand is the 'skyhigh' sides and bed of today's pickups ! I'm not the only one here who has noticed you need a LADDER to get into the bed. That HAS to be 'marketing' or someone , sure ain't a farmer or any tradesman wanting a high bed ! Has to be 'fun' getting an ATV in/out..... ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2020 at 7:44am
2010 Mercury Milan here, almost 186,000 miles. 32 mpg. It gets ~12,000 miles per year just going to work and back, then a few extra trips here and there. Might encounter 3 days in a year when I can't make it down the side road for work and hop in the truck. It will be driven until the wheels fall off, then will hopefully find another CAR! 
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Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2020 at 7:46am
| Why in the hell would I want an ugly-ass 4 door station wagon?!!! Hahahaha....times and styles and tastes have changed. Sheeple ain't got nothing to do with it! |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2020 at 7:51am
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Vistacruisers looked pretty nice... AND would tow a MonteCarloSS behind no problem... ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2020 at 9:38am
My daughter is driving a Chey Tahoe other than the nose is the same shape as the pickup of the same year, the steering wheel back the interior is same a station wagon of the old days. Yep hauls 9 just like a Vistacruieser. Grandma calls it the bus.But I can agree about pickup trucks have become a sheeple favorite. But ranch families and work cures were the big users of the first 4 door trucks.
So many city slickers dreaming of being a cowboy  they all needed a truck and a hat. |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2020 at 10:35am
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It's just marketing....that's what marketers do. When something works, they do more of it. How long ago were station wagons available? 90's I'd say??? Taurus/Sable made them and Caprice are the last ones I can picture, for American companies anyway. Why did they quit? Weren't selling. Why are they discontinuing most cars? Aren't selling as much as Crossovers, SUV's, and trucks. You say sheeple, most just say popularity. It's all in the underlying tone. |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2020 at 12:57pm
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well a lot of us are getting OLDER and dont BEND as good as we use to... Mom had a station wagon 60 years ago.. We hauled EVERYTHING with that.. Today i need a TRUCK to be able to bend and get in and set comfortable.. Boy has a Taurus and if i get in it, it takes quite a while to get back out.. And while in it, i feel like im in a recliner.... Lots of people that had wagons or mini vans moved on to 4 door trucks. FORD and GM responded by making them look and FEEL like a luxury car inside.. Thats what a lot of people want.... I use mine as a TRUCK a couple times a week... Just this am, got 6 sheet plywood and 20 - 2 x 4s...... 4 x 4 is nice for going up the hills / trails at the farm/ woods . ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2020 at 2:19pm
I get the not bending.....not looking forward to that, am already halfway there. Mom and dad have a real predicament. They have a 3/4 ton GMC 4x4 and a Bonneville. Mom 84, dad 83. The Bonneville is like getting out of a canoe, with a roof over your head, especially the rear seat. Mom can't get up in the truck, Dad can't get out of the Bonneville! |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2020 at 3:17pm
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re: Just this am, got 6 sheet plywood and 20 - 2 x 4s. Bet you went to the bank FIRST !!! wife has a Qashqui ( baby Nissan Rogue ) PITA to get in ,drive and get out. oh yeah ,radio comes on BLARING when you start the car.... ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2020 at 3:34pm
The Bonneville is like getting out of a canoe, with a roof over your head, especially the rear seat. Mom can't get up in the truck, Dad can't get out of the Bonneville! Been there, Done that !!.... I got the wife a FORD FLEX.. High roof, easy to get in, only sets 8 inches off the ground... 4 doors, and all are as big as a barn... gets 22 MPG !.. We had a Ford EDGE which was 2 rows of seats, CROSSOVER so its like an SUV only lower.... The new FLEX has a 3rd row... I doubt i could get in it, but the grand kids love it !..... when by myself, i drive the F150.------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2020 at 4:42pm
 , Just how many steps on your ladder to get into your truck ?? Perhaps you have running boards/nerf bars ?? The factory height of the new trucks is out-of-control IMO ! |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2020 at 5:38pm
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Almost EVERY truck has running boards... Only i have seen without are the base line work trucks or contractor trucks.... Running boards serve a good purpose in keeping crap from the tires off the doors and fenders... And make it EASY to get into the truck.
previous photo  ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2020 at 5:42pm
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They also make GREAT snow/slush/road salt catchers !!
Yes, THAT'S the primer color that warranted my original topic
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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2020 at 5:47pm
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well SOME people wash their truck every couple months ! ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2020 at 5:53pm
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I'll give you my keys this winter when the high is 15 for 2 months straight
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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2020 at 6:20pm
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we actually have DRIVE THRU car washes in Illinois... Hot water and radiant heat.. Even has PRESSURE !! BIG city 5000 people... must be too Civilized ! I would not own a truck without running boards.. Keeps all that CRAP off the doors and fenders. ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2020 at 10:15pm
| when i had my vending company, i used station wagons alot, better mileage than box trucks, and mostly could keep chocolate from melting in the summer with ac in the wagons. would put about 100,000 miles on a year. when working in the big city, seeing all the stupid drivers, i chose my big boy pickup, if them people driving them rice grinders wanted to run into me, they'd go under me! my first vehicle outta high school was a pickup, it was also used on the farm, and when we got hitched she wanted a pickup for her daily driving. been a big vehicle family ever since. trucks and burbs and station wagons. (i didn't count the hearses i've had too) ---just big station wagons! lol |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2020 at 7:50am
Steve, put 3 amber lights on the grill and you'd really have something!!!!!!
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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2020 at 8:01am
You do that and he will stretch this topic out for 6 more pages !! ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: TimCNY
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2020 at 8:44am
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The colors are dull, lifeless, depressing because that's what it seems like what the majority of Americans (if you believe the polls, the "peaceful" protesters/rioters/looters/anarchists are the majority) WANT in their pitiful lives? ------------- I need more than 200 characters for my "signature." I'd love to see that changed to 250! |
Posted By: modirt
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2020 at 9:29am
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Neighbor next to me works at a plant that makes parts for Ford vehicles. Since Trump......has been working 60 to 80 hour weeks.....so that is going on 3 years. Only break was covid mandated plant shutdown. He has built a shed and is filling it with toys trying to spend all the money. Would love to see basic vehicles again. I'm still driving my 2006 Toyota Tundra.....now has close to 200,000 miles.......has yet to be in the shop the first time for an unscheduled maintenance repair. As reliable as reliable gets. I doubt the same vehicle is still made by anyone. When this finally gives out......if it does......that is what I would want for a replacement. Do not want expensive gimmicks, bells and whistles. If none of the existing automakers will make plain jane, perhaps a new startup could? And the same with Tractors......a new tractor based on 1960's technology would suit me fine. We don't need no stinkn computers!
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Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2020 at 10:22am
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I believe you modirt more bells and whistles more troubles. But once you experience luxury hard to do without. I miss the drivers seat have power adjustment the wife's last car had this one doesn't. Helps my back to move the seat every once in a while, but not safe to do with the manual while moving. Back to the color thing.
Red cars get more speeding tickets than any other color. Or at least the insurance companies use to have stats that said that. Since radar is color blind maybe that is not true anymore. |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2020 at 9:12pm
| wait til someone tries to put puters on cows! |