Dayton/ split rim to regular rims = class 8 truck
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Topic: Dayton/ split rim to regular rims = class 8 truck
Posted By: DougG
Subject: Dayton/ split rim to regular rims = class 8 truck
Date Posted: 15 Oct 2020 at 12:05pm
| Looking at a Dodge 800 big truck, it's got split rims/ Dayton,?? - and wondering if anyone on here has experience in swapping them with newer style rims ? |
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Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 15 Oct 2020 at 12:29pm
| 22.5 dayton center(Open) wheels replace 10.00x20s 24.5 similarly replace 10.00x22s Simple as roll one off roll one on, may have to buy new spacers for in rears. |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 15 Oct 2020 at 12:31pm
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hmmm.... Simple as roll one off roll one on, bet you HAVE to open the wallet first though  ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 15 Oct 2020 at 12:44pm
| All it takes is a wheel tire change, can buy used Tubeless Daytons at nearly every wrecking yard on existing equipment. |
Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 15 Oct 2020 at 12:59pm
| Thanks for the replys, don't seem too bad then, what was the reason for split rims, I know everything at one time had them , but I've never heard anything good about them , the shop we went too as I was a kid had a hole through the roof by one coming apart,, and a cage all bent up from them |
Posted By: Phil Stier
Date Posted: 15 Oct 2020 at 1:43pm
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-fFNrC2yElJg/WRYGAnrijMI/AAAAAAAErK4/170aPA5dCIkOxtSMctyBMgMii4TIm3oywCLcB/s1600/tgtt.JPG" rel="nofollow"> This scan from the 1949 Budd Wheel catalog illustrates the dangerous 2-piece "split rim" (also know as the "widow maker") is the Firestone Type RH-5. The dominant feature of the RH-5 is the attachment of its halves near the wheel's center line. This connection point has an overlapping raised band around the inside of the wheel. This band will be seen on all types of RH-5 wheels, whether Budd style or traditional drop-center light-truck wheels. These wheels can be hard to identify because you can’t really see how they are made while assembled. It’s easier to identify them by eliminating the other possible wheel types. They are not "Locking Ring," "2-Piece" or "3-Piece Wheels" because they don’t have an easily identifiable ring or rings on one side (lip) of the wheel. They are not singe piece tubeless wheels because they do not have a dropped center (where the tire bead goes to allow you to work it over the rim for installation or removal). RH-5 wheels became popular in the late '40's (with manufacturers...) and were used extensively throughout the '50's and '60's. They were last available from Budd in 1972 and from Kelsey-Hayes in 1976. Due to their design, they have not aged well. |
Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 15 Oct 2020 at 3:50pm
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Unless the truck has been setting for a long time finding RH 5 rims is next to impossible as no one will work on them since late 60's I bought a 48 ford 2 ton and it had 2 of them on it but were bud style with lug nuts - never did change one of those but found other rims . Back in late 50's and early 60's changed some of them on a few trucks when working in gas station but most times boss would tell anyone bringing them in to go to a tire shop as he would not fix them Any truck tires we did fix we put under the floor hoist framework when airing them to act as a cage to prevent blowing apart if lock ring failed ------------- Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something. "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful." |
Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 15 Oct 2020 at 4:14pm
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Saw a man die from a Failed 10.00 22 budd split ring wheel, did not clean the groove well and the ring did not seat back where once was as was determined by the OSHA Team., shop left the remnant chunk of ring that impaled into a Roof Purlin in place and was told was there long after I was laid off. I take split ring tube types VERY Serious IF even bother to work on them. In 1981 had one off a customers trailer in Tulsa fill a cage as the ring popped off.
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Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2020 at 9:48am
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Neighbor worked at a trucking company helping in shop while going to school , 3 piece rim separated while airing up , mechanic was killed - neighbor had over 200 stitches to close up chest wounds and about 2 weeks in hospital .. Makes one believe a cage or some restraint is needed when working with tires no matter the type . ------------- Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something. "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful." |
Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2020 at 11:13am
| Nearly every truck and trailer I have had over the last twenty five years that had tube types went to tubeless as soon as needed tires, rims were destroyed enough to make unusable and or sold for scrap, the tire shops did not care if recycling tube types or tubeless when mounted the replacements, generally thanked me when eliminated the tube types. |
Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2020 at 2:05pm
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take 2 of the tube type rims , cut them in half bead area to open side , weld 4 pieces together to form kind of clover leaf - great firepit ring , found my son has sold a few of them from my old rim pile of Dayton rims ------------- Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something. "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful." |