Axle press ideas
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Topic: Axle press ideas
Posted By: bobkyllo
Subject: Axle press ideas
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2020 at 1:01pm
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The other day I had a mid 2000s jeep come in for a front pressed in wheel bearing. No problem done this many times. Got it all torn down. Removed the axle nut, hit it with a hammer no wiggle... Hmmm problem? Well I go get my big 3 jaw puller to press that axle shaft through and loosen it up. I tried all I could with a wrench on the pullers forcing screw. I couldn't get it to budge. I even wacked away on the screw to shock the axle. No go.. I then kept the tension on the puller and added a bit of heat to center of the hub where the axle comes through. Now mind you I was a bit timid with the heat because I didn't want to hurt the abs sensor or something else. What do you guys suggest. Get a bit more aggressive with the heat? Possibly ruining the sensor. Perhaps getting a big pipe wrench and really lay on that forcing screw? Perhaps you guys have a tool that you've found to work well in this case. I've had this problem in the past but never to this point. I've always been pretty successful with a tight puller and a couple sharp blows on the screw and presto. Otherwise my last thought is to remove that whole knuckle / axle shaft assembly and get it in the press some how. That will most likely ruin the shaft. |
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Posted By: Michael V (NM)
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2020 at 2:39pm
| Did ya try an impact on the puller screw? Sometimes the hammering from the impact wrench will shake things loose |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2020 at 3:17pm
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Last JEEP I had was a '75 CJ-5, so things have changed a bit I suppose..... Since the bearing is 'toast' can you just use and angle grinder and a real thin cutoff wheel to cut a 'segment' of the outer race/case and then the inner race ? I've done this on 'regular' bearings on axles where the inner piece is 'rustwelded' onto the axle. If you've got steady hands and patience you CAN remove the bearing pieces and NOT score the axle. You need to take at least 1/3 of the circle, then th erest will 'pop' off... ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: john(MI)
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2020 at 3:29pm
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What Jay said. Get after it with the Metabo! ------------- D14, D17, 5020, 612H, CASE 446 |
Posted By: bobkyllo
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2020 at 8:03pm
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You can not get to the being at all. It's encased in the knuckle. In order to do a pressed in bearing you need to remove the hub, then a snap ring, then press the double row ball bearing out. But in order to do all this I need to get the axle out of the hub. It's splined into the hub so it's got some fantastic surface area for the rust to get a hold of. |
Posted By: fixer1958
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2020 at 7:58am
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Keep the tension on it and spray the crap out it with penetrant. Smack it with a sledge ever so often and torque it down some more and repeat. It should eventually give it up but what you have afterwards may be questionable. |
Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2020 at 5:06pm
Can I take this to mean similar to my old friends line.
 "Jack up the radiator cap and roll new parts under,and you got everything fixed at once." |
fixer1958 wrote:Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2020 at 6:13pm
At first your were talking about a FORD productJEEP was once know for high quality run, forever engineering, although now everything regardless of brand, is maybe just barely good enough to last longer than the warranty An many parts are not really designed to be serviced Car manufactures are really more interested in selling you and new one that repair parts.------------- If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere. Real pullers don't have speed limits. If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY |
Posted By: bobkyllo
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2020 at 3:28am
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I know what you guys mean. A lot of stuff we use now days is designed to be thrown away. I've never had one this stuck before. I've had it where I put the puller on, tighten it up, and hit the screw with a Sledge. Repeat this maybe 6 or 8 times and there you have it. Well not this case. I'm really stumped as what to do. I'm really starting to think that I'll have to remove the knuckle and axle shaft. Then put the whole thing in a press to separate things. |
Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2020 at 8:39pm
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Well, you've got a plan. Go ahead, you can't hurt anything. That's what dear ole Dad taught me many years ago. It's already broke, you can't hurt it any more. ------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17 |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2020 at 9:42pm
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HEAT and BEAT is about the only option.... If you pull the axle and take to the press, it MAY get better with a bigger PUSH... or may still have to BEAT it apart. ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: Dnoym N. S. Can.
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2020 at 10:48pm
Axle Puller this is what i use put a wrench on the nut and used an impact on the puller B:=) Dnoym
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Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2020 at 5:40am
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I remember doing the front axle shaft Ujoints of my 85 F150. 6 ker-pows got 1 and 1/2 bearing cups off, then ker-BAM. BROKE the 10 ton hydraulic jack in the press !! Borrowed neighbours 20 ton jack to get the other 2 off... still have the jack, sniff,sniff, F150 long gone.... we all need to hear you 'finally got the stubborn (*^&*(**( off' !!! ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |