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D 15 front axle bushing

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Topic: D 15 front axle bushing
Posted By: ACinSC
Subject: D 15 front axle bushing
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2020 at 11:09am
Anyone have any tips on removing this old pivot pin support bushing ? It's p/n #70233368 if that helps . Thanks !



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Posted By: Tracy Martin TN
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2020 at 11:20am
If it is steel, weld a bolt to it to pull it out. Tracy


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No greater gift than healthy grandkids!


Posted By: Gatz in NE
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2020 at 11:33am
IIRC, the bushings are some alloy of bronze or similar.

Used a "bushing splitter" on my D17
A bushing splitter is nothing more than a narrow chisel with an acute angled point., and almost square.
They work great for just this kind of bushing in a blind hole.


Posted By: ACinSC
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2020 at 12:01pm
It's steel . May have to separate this piece from the steering box and see if I can find a friendly machine shop ? Don't have any welding skills . Thanks !!


Posted By: WeisAC2
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2020 at 4:03pm







Posted By: Joe(TX)
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2020 at 9:10pm
I had to split the one on my 170 with a torch to get it out.

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1970 190XT, 1973 200, 1962 D-19 Diesel, 1979 7010, 1957 WD45, 1950 WD, 1961 D17, Speed Patrol, D14, All crop 66 big bin, 180 diesel, 1970 170 diesel, FP80 forklift. Gleaner A


Posted By: ACinSC
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2020 at 6:17am
Yeah Joe . Sounds like the smart way to do it . Thanks


Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2020 at 7:43am
really  ? a ROUND hole ?? THAT'S what it's supposed to look like ? NOT egged shape....
sigh.....
I'm guessin you put mor ehtna 12 hrs a year in the D15 seat.....
since I sold next door ,I've put 15 minutes warmin my tookuson Troy.

Jay


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3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)

Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water


Posted By: ACinSC
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2020 at 8:42am
I dunno Jay . Prolly only get 5 - 6 hours of seat time a year . I just kinda enjoy fixing things on this old tractor . Mostly anyway . Thanks !



Posted By: EPALLIS
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2020 at 8:43am
Hope this isn't a silly question.  What is the purpose of this pin?  Mine has a grease zerk at the end of it.  If one  keeps it greased, in theory it should last forever.  Correct?  Thanks in advance.


Posted By: ACinSC
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2020 at 7:21pm
Grease certainly would seem to help in my opinion . Maybe the pivot pin is there so the axle can move when you drive one wheel in a hole ? Maybe someone else knows ? Thanks


Posted By: ACinSC
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2020 at 8:04am
I wonder if building up this pin with JB Weld would hold up ? Might just be a waste of time and JB Weld ? Thanks


Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2020 at 8:06am
waste of time... I don't think JBWeld would survive the shock of a few 'gopher hole' events.....


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3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)

Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water


Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2020 at 8:11am
Not JB....just weld it up and dress it down with a angle grinder. Don't have to be perfect. Fiddle with it till bushing slips over it.


Posted By: ACinSC
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2020 at 8:24am
Thanks Jay and Steve . Kinda what I thought too .


Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2020 at 8:40am
Pay attention to where to grease hole is and drill out when done.


Posted By: ACinSC
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2020 at 9:57am
I could be wrong , but don't think there is a grease fitting hole ? Plan to slap some grease on the pin when I put it back together . Thanks !


Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 11 Aug 2020 at 8:17am
Think you're right about pin...isn't there a zerk in housing?


Posted By: Jack(Ky)
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2020 at 9:30am
Cram a piece of loaf bread in the old bushing and take a piece of shaft 1 1/4" and drive the bread in it and it should push the bushing out. Is this bushing available from Agco? I need one for my 170.

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'59 D14 '68 170 Diesel '81 7020 40 All Crop


Posted By: Hurst
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2020 at 9:40pm
If it's steel, I like to run a bead (or 2x 180 degrees apart) with the welder.  It needs to be hot enough it will heat all the way through, but don't want to burn through.  If you do that, the heat of the weld expands the bushing, and as you're welding it, it creates a soft spot for the expanded bushing to squeeze together.  When it cools off (let it cool off on it's own, not rapidly with water), the bushing should be nice and loose and come right out.  Putting them back in, throw them in a freezer and take a propane torch to heat up the opening just before you go to put it in and it should drop back in.

Hurst


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1979 Allis Chalmers 7000
5800 Hours


Posted By: ACinSC
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2020 at 12:03pm
As you can tell from the pics I kept after my old bushing with a hammer and chisel until it finally shattered . Prolly should've done like Hurst suggested but I just tapped the new one in . Good luck !



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