Woods Mower - 72-2 PTO Shaft
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Topic: Woods Mower - 72-2 PTO Shaft
Posted By: TimCNY
Subject: Woods Mower - 72-2 PTO Shaft
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2020 at 9:29am
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OK... what I'm searching for: https://store.germanbliss.com/woods-72-2-single-spindle-single-spindle-cutter-main-assembly-parts" rel="nofollow - https://store.germanbliss.com/woods-72-2-single-spindle-single-spindle-cutter-main-assembly-parts It'd be #s 8 (multiple options). I know Weasler 35N 1-3/16" square tube/sleeve would work, but I'd rather get the entire "front 2/3" of the driveshaft to make life easier with the little time I have and not have as much fab work involved. I know, just replace the machine lol, but since the late 70s this pull-behind mower has been kicking butt. The PTO tube/sleeve had significant twist in it when I bought it many years back, and it's been worked hard since then. But with regular mowings of idle fields delayed until now when the goldenrod is over my head while I'm ON the tractor, I missed an old stump... and this time the tube twisted in half instead of the shear pin. Suggestions? ------------- I need more than 200 characters for my "signature." I'd love to see that changed to 250! |
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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2020 at 9:40am
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you should call them, and describe what you have on the phone... I would guess the length is different for some tractors... and the PTO coupling might vary also.... they should get it right over the Phone. ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: TimCNY
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2020 at 9:52am
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Thanks Steve, I got an email reply from German-Bliss stating that they had nothing (they did a year ago when I was looking for one as a "just in case" part!!! Total was only $260 at that time...) in stock, and they had called Woods Corp. to see if they had anything. The answer was: Obsolete machine and parts. So, nope. I've found a few Weasler 35N tube/sleeves available (new), and will go that route if I can't find any complete used ones, even an old whole mower for parts would do. If it weren't for the "Field Goal Post" configuration of the hitch/frame that the PTO passes through, I'd just go with a proper-length single piece PTO shaft. But the design of the machine will not permit much up/down or side-to-side movement of such a single-piece shaft at all, and I need to make some sharp turns at times. If I hadn't just replaced the blades this year, I'd be re-purposing the gearbox, salvaging what I could and hauling the rest to the scrapyard and looking for another pull-behind. I can't use the 3-pt. hitch mowers in some of the tight places I mow in the woods. I've even been looking for parts haybines and balers to see if I can use/modify them. Funny how they disappear the minute you really NEED one lol!
------------- I need more than 200 characters for my "signature." I'd love to see that changed to 250! |
Posted By: john(MI)
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2020 at 10:34am
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I've seen pto shafts at the farm stores, TSC, Family Farm and Home. You can't find anything at your local store? ------------- D14, D17, 5020, 612H, CASE 446 |
Posted By: TimCNY
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2020 at 1:02pm
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Not all are the same lol but thank you, I have looked. Not many in the right size/series, and more than a few of the 35N series (1-3/16" square shaft/tube) shown are long enough that I'd have to cut to fit and drill/tap a new hole for the grease fitting. Not a problem but at $200+ I'd rather find something that's the right fit. Picky, I know. Cheaper online, too. ------------- I need more than 200 characters for my "signature." I'd love to see that changed to 250! |
Posted By: TimCNY
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2020 at 1:04pm
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Also, the full length of the tube/sleeve is not necessarily square, and by cutting I'm reducing the already minimal contact surface area. ------------- I need more than 200 characters for my "signature." I'd love to see that changed to 250! |
Posted By: Tracy Martin TN
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2020 at 2:16pm
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Tim, is the short front shaft OK? What is damaged on rear shaft? Thanks Tracy ------------- No greater gift than healthy grandkids! |
Posted By: TimCNY
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2020 at 3:24pm
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Tracy, thanks - the front (connect to tractor PTO) section is fine, the rear/solid shaft is fine, it's the sleeve/tube, some call it the female section. That combo (shaft and tube) is pretty much always in a straight line between the gearbox and the - pillow bearing? Anyways, sorry the link is so outdated and not more clear. Twisted like a twizzler. Surprised how thin that steel is in the sleeve after the square internal ends. ------------- I need more than 200 characters for my "signature." I'd love to see that changed to 250! |
Posted By: Tracy Martin TN
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2020 at 3:45pm
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Tim, does the front of rear PTO shaft carry the carrier bearing? Might be able to just remove the female sleeve and replace it. If careful , it wouldn't be a big problem. Make sure the yokes are oriented correctly. HTH Tracy ------------- No greater gift than healthy grandkids! |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2020 at 5:04pm
I'd go to agrisupply or surplus center, and see if either has anything you can use. Only thing that matters is the HP rating and sizes/shapes of the ends on the outer yokes... ------------- Source: Babylon Bee. Sponsored by BRAWNDO, its got what you need! |
Posted By: TimCNY
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2020 at 7:30am
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Thanks Tracy, that's Plan A lol... Plan(s) B, C, D etc. involve what I wrote above about converting haybine/baler/etc. PTO driveshafts. Dave, all we have around here are dealerships and Tractor Supply. Used to be a few boneyards but no more. The dealerships are crazy pricey here. And if you're not one of their big customers you get the bum's rush. But when I need something I just cringe and go anyhow. And remember to hold my tongue... And yup, I was able to determine that Woods used Weasler 35N series shafts/yokes/yadda yadda yadda. ------------- I need more than 200 characters for my "signature." I'd love to see that changed to 250! |
Posted By: Dakota Dave
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2020 at 7:55am
| When we need a PTO for the farm just take it off and grand forks welding is a driveline shop they make PTO and drive shafts for many farms get it right done today if you need it today. Ask any large truck repair or implement dealer where they get their drive line work done. A custom drive shaft for my lifted suburban was $350 new cardigan new tube and new u joints only thing reused was the yoke and.spun balancing included. |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2020 at 5:31pm
Tim, I was referring to agrisupply, on line as well as surplus center, on line.. https://www.agrisupply.com/?eid=gl020116&sid=google&gclid=CjwKCAjwsan5BRAOEiwALzomXwS3g97VzdXnxr6vDy4ZvdrM5rc4AoL0W8YIL6SaXykEa9tjhdofmxoCszYQAvD_BwE" rel="nofollow - https://www.agrisupply.com/?eid=gl020116&sid=google&gclid=CjwKCAjwsan5BRAOEiwALzomXwS3g97VzdXnxr6vDy4ZvdrM5rc4AoL0W8YIL6SaXykEa9tjhdofmxoCszYQAvD_BwE https://www.surpluscenter.com/Power-Transmission/PTO-Shafts-Jack-Shafts/" rel="nofollow - https://www.surpluscenter.com/Power-Transmission/PTO-Shafts-Jack-Shafts/ ------------- Source: Babylon Bee. Sponsored by BRAWNDO, its got what you need! |
TimCNY wrote:Posted By: TimCNY
Date Posted: 06 Aug 2020 at 7:39am
oops...  Thanks, Dave! I'm looking, but nothing stands out. ...yet...------------- I need more than 200 characters for my "signature." I'd love to see that changed to 250! |
Posted By: ac-mike
Date Posted: 06 Aug 2020 at 7:46am
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I repair them all the time in my shop. ------------- D-12III, 200D, 170G, HD-3, D19D 3pt, D17D High Crop, WD45G p/s, D15IID, D15IIG, D15G IND, 655, (3)WD45D p/s, 700, 816 |
Posted By: TimCNY
Date Posted: 06 Aug 2020 at 2:59pm
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Shipping probably not too bad, ac-mike. But this one twisted and broke like a straw at the point where the internal squared part of the sleeve ended and opened up to the totally hollow part of the tube. Worth sending? I did find that the Weasler PN is 11003548. Cheapest I've found with shipping is $144.55, at rotarycuttersupply.com. Not sure if Komrade Kuomo has worked out a deal where they have to collect sales tax, too. Locally, they want about $220 + tax for the same exact part number. Tractor Supply, $200. I may have a line on an old New Holland parts haybine PTO drifeshaft assembly, hope to look at it this weekend. I know, beating a dead horse, just replace it lol! ------------- I need more than 200 characters for my "signature." I'd love to see that changed to 250! |